16 Gauge 0 frame vs. 16 gauge 1 frame

Mills · 02-15-2019, 01:42 PM

There is lots of talk on here about 16 gauge Parkers and particularly the 0 frames compared to 1 frames. I recently acquired a 0 frame and thought to put it next to my 1 frame from several years ago, just to see the comparison for myself. These are two GH grades about 200 serial numbers apart.

The one on top with refinished barrels is the one frame. Done by Dale Edmonds and sure wish he was still around to do the ones on my 0 frame

6pt-Sika · 02-15-2019, 02:15 PM

I have a 1 frame GH 16 that had an inch relieved from the barrels YUCK . And a I have a relatively recently acquired VH 16 on a 1 frame .

I want and or need a GH 0 frame as well as a VH 0 frame preferably one with 28" barrels and the other with 26" . I have no idea if I'll feel a difference but my anal need to posses one of this and one of that fuels the fire

mobirdhunter · 02-15-2019, 05:01 PM

I have a GH O frame 16, and an AH 16 built on the #1 frame. I really like both of these guns -- the GH is a Damascus gun and the AH has Acme Steel barrels. They both weigh essentially the same -- the GH 6 lbs 5.46 oz. and the AH 6 lbs. 5.47 oz. by my scale. The GH has a shorter stock (just under 14") with a dog's head BP, and the AH has a 14 1/8" stock with a checkered butt. Both have 28 inch barrels. The GH is balanced with more weight forward, the AH more between the hands. Interesting that they are the same weight. As has been stated here on the Forum many times, the frame is only one element of a Parker's weight. I am still amazed at how the Parker craftsmen could strike barrels (and do other things) to create a desired gun weight.

mobirdhunter · 02-15-2019, 05:02 PM

PS Mills, those are two really nice guns you've shared with us -- thanks!

Mills · 02-15-2019, 05:19 PM

Thanks Gary. I have a 1 1/2 frame 12 gauge that weighs less than the 16 1 frame. It is amazing the variation

Marty K. · 02-15-2019, 06:59 PM

I acquired a 16 Vh 28" 1 Frame that letters at 6 lbs 4 oz. I/C and Full .....love it...feels perfect to me...

Kenneth Jones (Kenny) · 02-15-2019, 07:58 PM

I'm looking at a Trojan that advertises 2-3/4" chambers made in 1913. Would anyone know if that length was offered at that time? They do not state the frame size.

Dean Romig · 02-15-2019, 08:01 PM

Not on a Trojan. It would have had to have been ordered that way... which is unlikely. A research letter may address such an order.

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Kirk Potter · 02-15-2019, 08:15 PM

Someone has a nice 0 frame 16 for sale right now..

Kenneth Jones (Kenny) · 02-15-2019, 08:15 PM

I see it offered on Rock Island auction, and with all the talk of 2-3/4" shells being made popular in the twenties or so leads me to believe this one may have been reamed to 2-3/4".

From the Parker Grade identification on the home page: "Though some exceptions exist, the Trojan was not available for specific order. It was limited to 12, 16 and 20 gauge and to specific frame sizes; 2, 1 and 0 respectively. Barrel lengths were fixed to two choices per gauge. Ejectors and single triggers were not produced for the Trojan."