New to Parker Forum--Woul like some advice

Jimwallman · 04-13-2010, 02:26 PM

Hello everyone,

I have had a Parker Brothers Side by side and was ging to try to see what it might be worth. I will have forthcoming pictures once i locate/buy a new camera cord.

I will try to describe it as best I can. It has the serial # 153105 so it was made in 1910. The Barrell was made with grade # 2 Parker special steel. Frame size is 0. Barrel weight is 15. The barrel appears in good shape with a few tiny scratches on the bottom. I was told the gun was shortened, so the barrel is 28" long. I believe it is a 20 guage. The barrel diamiter is 5/8th of an inch.

Other barrel markings include a JG with a circle around it and a mark upp and to the right that looks like some kind of symble. It also has an IWW2 upsidedown.

As for the stock, its a bit oxidided, not super bad but one part the size of a dime is slightly copper discolered. Grease?

Lastly It has hammers and ejectors. So I ask the people who know better than I if I have something. I am going to look at the book I got at the library, but its pretty vaugue.. Thankyou for you help. Jim Wallman The hammers are internal.

Dean Romig · 04-13-2010, 07:20 PM

Hello Jim

The book skips over your serial number but some of the information you have given helps. It was made in 1909 or 1910 and is a grade 2 or G grade as indicated by the "Parker Special Steel" on the top rib. The 5/8" barrel diameter - if taken as the outside diameter - is correct for a 28 gauge and not a 20. If taken as an inside diameter it is closer to a 20 gauge. If it is a 28 gauge GH or GHE it could be worth as much as $20,000 depending on condition. Taake as many pictures as you can of the barrel flats where all the stampings are as well as the "water table" of the frame where the serial number is. Does it have a pistol grip or a straight grip? Take high-resolution (sharp, not blurred) pictures of all aspects of the gun. We would love to see your gun and drool on our keyboards....

Jimwallman · 04-15-2010, 04:12 PM

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Harry Collins · 04-16-2010, 08:45 AM

Jim,

It looks like a very nice Parker. Could you take a clear picture of the rib at the muzzel. We should be able to tell if the barrels have been cut. I just looked at the weight of my 28 and 20 gauge barrels off 0 frames and they weighed 3 3 and 3 2. Yours weigh 2 15 and if it's a 28 gauge with uncut barrels you would be rolling in high cotton. A 20 gauge GH is a very desirable Parker as well.

Harry

Opening Day · 04-16-2010, 10:00 AM

Jim, what Harry said the photo needs to be "sharp and clear". Try taking the pictures outdoors so you have a faster shutter speed, it looks as if you have camera movement in the photos you shot due to low shutter speed and trying to hand hold it. If you have a tripod mount the camera on it setup the shot and then turn on the selftimer and let go of the camera, ie. slow shutter speed not touching the camera, sharp photo. A selftimer on a camera was originally designed for just that low light slow shutter speed and no cable release. I know off topic

Jimwallman · 04-16-2010, 10:54 AM

more pictures

Opening Day · 04-16-2010, 10:58 AM

The photos are still not clear but it appears as if the barrels are not cut. Try taking the gun outside with the camera on a tripod and photographing the end of the rib. If you have to shoot indoors get more light on the gun.

Jimwallman · 04-16-2010, 11:07 AM

the sun just came out so I will try i just have a 100 doaalr cannon, nothing fancy. Ill go out but any other suggestions would be appreciate. I have 2 400 wat work lights, but think they will be too bright

Jimwallman · 04-16-2010, 11:09 AM

Sorry to be niave, where exactly is the end of the rib with the top?

Harry Collins · 04-16-2010, 11:42 AM

Jim,

Just like your previous picture where the beed is. What we are looking for is a blank space on the rib between the muzzel and where the squigly lines start. I think I see that your Parker has it, but the picture was a little fuzzy. That tells us the barrels have not been cut and that is what you want. Still a great looking Parker. I have a 20 and 28 gauge Parker that both have 26" barrels. I see this is GHE which means it has ejectors and that is anothe good thing.

Harry