grade 5 trojan?

[smartymouse]

I have a trojan with a letter, the engraving and stock is identical to the bhe pictured on page 94 in the shooting flying and american experience book the stock also has a silver inlay however the letter i have on it just tells the date it was shipped etc. it doesn't mention the grade I took it to the bass pro fine gun room and the man said it was the nicest parker trojan he had ever seen and assured me he's seen many so, i took it to the fine gun show in allentown pa and 2 had 2 other dealers that had parkers for sale look at it and they said the same thing, i bought 4 parkers 7 years ago and now just started to really get into them, what i'm wondering is why the letter doesn't mention the engraving and the fancy wood? and also the 3 of them appraised it at $9,000 is this in the ballpark or a little too high the guin is like new but the receiver was reblued?

[Pa SxS]

All the engraving and stock work would be after market upgrades. There was no such thing as a B grade Trojan or any other grade Trojan. Trojan is the grade.

All Parker receivers regardless of model were color case hardened, never blued.

I suggest you study this web site to learn more about Parker shotguns and how to tell what is original and what is not. It's a learning experience but well worth it on future purchases. The experts you asked for advice weren't very expert!

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by mearl mace

the letter i have on it just tells the date it was shipped etc. it doesn't mention the grade

Trojan is the grade - pictures would be nice to see, but as stated above, sounds like aftermarket upgrading.

There was another highly upgraded Trojan dicussed just a few weeks ago

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6824

[smartymouse]

i looked up the grades in the forum and it is grade 5 engraving exactly like the pics of the grade 5 guns, like i said it is exactly like the gun pictured in the book i compared my gun with it with a magnifying glass it has parker bros engraved on it and the 3 people that i had look at it said it was parker engraving from the factory

[Pa SxS]

Mearl,

Go to the home page, then go to the Parker Grades link. Find the Trojan grade and look at the high quality pictures.

This is what your Trojan should look like. No exceptions except that what you are looking at is a very high conditioned gun. Any deviation from what you see is aftermarket. You may wish to not believe it but that's the truth.

[smartymouse]

ok first i never said i was an expert thats why i'm asking questions, i went to the grading section and the gun is exactly like the grade 5's a twin I never said it was a grade 5 gun just that the engraving is and the stock, and the people that looked at it said the receiver was reblued its not case colored

[Smoothebore]

We really need to see pictures of your gun. It sounds like you have a B grade Parker. It also sounds like someone told you that every Parker is known as a Trojan. As was stated in an earlier post, Trojan is the name of the lowest grade gun that Parker Brothers manufactured. What type of steel is stamped on the top rib of the gun?

Dave

[smartymouse]

I know its a trojan the barrels are marked trojan and the letter says trojan like i said the gun looks exactly like the bhe on page 94 in the shooting flying experience book they are identical i compared them with my magnifying glass, could the gun have been sent back in later to beeingraved? I have 3 other parkers a gh a vh and a sbt and i have a letter here from a Bill Mullins who it seems went to see my uncles guns who passed away and had a huge collection of guns i was with him alot at guns shows etc but was into his german doubles and drillings and not the parkers so much but i ended up inheriting one and bought the other 3 he still has a 28 gauge that I can't afford, anyhow i need someone in the harrisburg pa area to look at my guns and tell me exactly what they are I know what the gh and and sbt are but the vh is not normal it belonged to a pro baseball player it has barrel guards inlayed in gold and a gold diamond on the floorplate with added ingraving which is poor the sides are that of a ah grade it has a monte carlo stock with a gold cap with name on it and the trigger gaurd has him name ingraved in gold my original question was basically why is this trojan engraved and have the fancy wood etc. all the trojans ive seen were just plain if it was special ordered why didn't the letter say that? just a little confused is all but thanks for the info

[smartymouse]

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop

Mearl,

Go to the home page, then go to the Parker Grades link. Find the Trojan grade and look at the high quality pictures.

This is what your Trojan should look like. No exceptions except that what you are looking at is a very high conditioned gun. Any deviation from what you see is aftermarket. You may wish to not believe it but that's the truth.

ok i did that and the gun is identical to the grade 5 guns pictured

[smartymouse]

Originally Posted by mearl mace

ok i did that and the gun is identical to the grade 5 guns pictured

Cderlak huck i did what you told me to do i went into the grading pics the gun doesn't look like any of the trojans it looks exactly like the bh pictured on the grade 5 guns but the barrels are marked trojan steel and the letter i have says trojan shipped in 1921 it really is a twin to the bh pictured on page 94 in the shooting flying experience book by ed muderlak I will try to get some pictures I'm not sure my camera is good enough for the details though but thanks for your inpu,t Mearl