Real Deal Case Colors

[Bruce Day]

You know, when I started this thread I passed on something I had learned with some photos and thought it might generate some advancement and maybe even thoughtful discussion. It has to some degree but I'm concerned that many of these threads are going to be diverted and degraded, as this one has.
I have differences of opinion sometimes with a couple people here but that doesn't mean that I don't respect them as people or respect their appreciation of the Parker gun and its preservation for the future.
But I don't understand what the hell is happening now. I look sometimes at other collecting forums and what I see is not what I want to be a part of. There was once a Lefever forum, well I don't even see that anymore and I understand a couple guys ruined it.
Maybe this is just venting, but we have had the premier, most civilized, and most thoughtful forum, something that people want to be a part of, and I'd not like to lose that.
If I'm off base, let me know.

[Jim DiSpagno]

No Bruce, you are not off base at all. The fact that some contentious replies have been made followed by snide remarks and insinuations makes it uncomfortable to say the least. If I had wanted to get into a pissing match, then I have family for that. This is supposed to be educational, informative and fun. Please let us keep it that way. If someone is so inclined to vent hostility or indignation towards a comment of statement of fact or opinion, they should do it in private and not to raid a thread. My father once told me "never argue with a fool in public, as a stranger could not tell the difference between you. Thanks.
Jim DiSpagno

[AmarilloMike]

My opinion: ed is here to promote his gun business and also has hopes that he will become recognized as a Parker guru. And when he appears to be failing to achieve those two goals he reverts to trolling. Just like a twelve year old boy who runs a stick down the neighbor's fence to make their dog's bark. I have seen this pattern over and over on the Doublegun. He not so subtly trolls guns-for-sale through the main forums and self - promotes. He scoffs at the BBS members, community and their values and traditions and sees us as sheep to sheared and slaughtered. That is the end of my opinion.

ed at this point you ususally give me a warning about getting banned. Please just report my post to the moderator and skip that tedious threat.


Best,


Mike

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Bruce Day

You know, when I started this thread I passed on something I had learned with some photos and thought it might generate some advancement and maybe even thoughtful discussion.

I agree and appreciate the original intention of this and other threads of similar topics. However, one must always be careful on these boards with the topic of CCH. They always end up going in the same direction if given enough time.

[Bill Murphy]

Bruce, since the third picture of Trojans is of a Remington gun, are we to understand that gun to be colored by the bone and charcoal case hardening method or by a different method?

[Bruce Day]

Bill, those are CH's guns and he said see what they say about those. The first two are earlier and most certainly charcoal case coloring. The third may be a transition gun, I think I recall that it is, but looks a bit more to me like cyanide than charcoal. All cyanide guns don't have to be garishly tiger striped and I think it is an issue of technique. I've seen some that are at least to me very difficult to tell cyanide from charcoal, particularly after some wear and oxidation.

What do you think?

[Dennis]

Bruce, I think your thread was great and I think most of us feel that way. Please allow me to point out something that I have personally been guilty of and I am not referring to anyone but myself in this point. A problem with emails and threads such as this one is we do not have the opportunity to speak in person to whom we are sending or receiving the thread. Therefore we tend to let our personal issues sometimes cloud what we think the other person is saying. As a new member to the PGCA I have noticed that many members seem not to like a couple of other members. From reading some threads it is obvious why. Having said that I have to also say I have never met anyone on this site in person so I can't honestly say what type of people they would be. Most are probably wonderful people who may have a difference of opinion from mine. Some are apparently obnoxious to the point of irritating a number of people who read their posts. Some are self serving. Most of us though are in this because they genuinely love Parker Brothers shotguns and have the same goals as you do. Even before I bought my one (so far) Parker GH I read the posts and loved them. I loved the photos of really high quality guns and I loved the (for lack of a better word) professionalism of the members. This is a great organization that is kept running smoothly by men and women such as yourself. I guess what I am saying is there are members in every organization who just don't fit in or are self serving. Believe me when I say that almost always the other members know exactly who they are and deal with them accordingly. This is a great organization with wonderful members. It is only getting better.

[ed good]

dennis: no problem here and no apology necessary...

as to the quality of the three photos in the case color quiz thread, they are quote old and may have been taken on my original digital camera that i bought around 2000 or even before. so, they are not of the quality produced by the newer cameras. i upgraded cameras in 2006 and am due for another upgrade. and if you care to, please do take your best guess re the origin of the case colors on the three guns pictured in the case color quiz thread. regards, ed

[B. Dudley]

Dennis,

I hope that the last few days bantering have not been some of your first experiences on the Forum. This is a great place with great people. I say one of the best places in fact. Please do stick around. Maybe you will get the chance to meet some of us in person in the future. I think that any of us would like that.

[ed good]

mike: i am not going to respond to your personal attack out of respect for bruce and his desire to get this thread back on the original topic that he started.