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Ryan Brege 06-07-2026 03:19 PM

Early graded lifter
 
https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=103659469

Not sure if this has been discussed. Minimal engraving and no stock shield. Kind of a head scratcher.

Jim DiSpagno 06-07-2026 05:08 PM

I'd like to see a serial number but from what I can see, it is a dollar grade probably a $225.00 grade that's been restocked in the past and had the friend attachment converted. A letter would be helpful and as always, barrel wall thickness it very important at this price point. Ask seller for the serial number and get a letter on it. Nice gun but????

edgarspencer 06-07-2026 06:39 PM

Jim may very well be correct, but in my estimation, it's a $200 grade. The ball grip guns usually had a gold escutcheon on the ball, which this gun has. SN would definitely help in determining if the fore end latch is original, but my guess is it is. Checkering pattern is better than a $200 grade, but the lessor engraving is why I think it's a $200 grade. In any case, it's a handsome gun, and the price seems right.

Brian Dudley 06-07-2026 09:55 PM

There is a lot of very interesting things about that gun. The checkering, though recut, appears to be the original pattern. And it is pattern very unlike anything I have seen before. The shape of the forend latch is also very different.

Stan Hoover 06-07-2026 10:15 PM

I was sorely tempted to buy this particular gun.

When I noticed it for sale maybe 2 years ago, I consulted a few friends with more Parker knowledge.

The consensus was that it had been restocked, but that was only an opinion after looking over the pictures. (I may have more pictures yet if I can find them)

The engraving still makes it interesting to me, I had to fight off the temptation when they brought the listing to the top.

Ryan Brege 06-07-2026 10:36 PM

Why would there be no SN on the lower tang? I am nowhere near an expert but just looking at the few pictures posted, if that is a re-stock it is one heck of a good job.

Dean Romig 06-08-2026 07:53 AM

It has both the gold oval on the ball as well as the gold shield high on the stock between and just to the rear of the hammers.
And that may be a replacement stock judging by the un-Parker-like features, like the checkering patterns and the nose of the comb.
Very high quality work though, in any case.





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edgarspencer 06-08-2026 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 449969)
as well as the gold shield high on the stock between and just to the rear of the hammers.

That's the top tang.

Steve Huffman 06-08-2026 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 449973)
That's the top tang.

Someday I think you two should get in the boxing ring and go at :rotf::rotf:it

Larry Stauch 06-08-2026 09:50 AM

Lifter
 
Beautiful wood any way you look at it. And reasonably nice engraving. I tried to talk to them about the price a long-time ago and they were not hearing it. So, I moved on.

Dean Romig 06-08-2026 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 449973)
That's the top tang.

Yup, upon looking closer, you’re right.





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Bill Murphy 06-08-2026 11:48 AM

Larry, when you talked to those guys, did you get the serial number? That could give us some information.

Larry Stauch 06-08-2026 01:09 PM

British Proofs
 
After talking to the guys in Houston about this gun, it's all coming back to me. The guy actually remembered me talking to him several months ago. The thing that tipped me over about this gun is it has some British proofs on the gun, according to the guys at Collectors. It doesn't say "anything" on the top rib. It has metric bore diameters on the barrel flats of 20.5 and 21.1. And it has no Parker marks on the barrel flats that he could tell me about. The serial number, on the water table, is 3708 (and FR 9) which says it's a D grade 10 gauge with 32" barrels. It does have 3708 on the side of the barrel lug. Heck, maybe it was ordered by someone in England. Maybe that explains the weird bottom tang with no serial number on it and the weird forend latch. A letter may tell something about all this. The sales guy says he's going to send me pictures and if he does, I'll stick them in this post.

Dean Romig 06-08-2026 01:15 PM

F.9.R does not indicate a grade.
The sculpted teardrop on the side of the bolster indicates a B grade or above.





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Wayne Owens 06-08-2026 01:35 PM

The D shown in the grade column in the Serialization Book of guns under 6000 serial numbers means the gun had Damascus barrels. It doesn't mean a specific grade, just the barrel steel.

edgarspencer 06-08-2026 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 449992)
Yup, upon looking closer, you’re right.

I knew you were using your phone

Arthur Shaffer 06-08-2026 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Stauch (Post 449980)
Beautiful wood any way you look at it. And reasonably nice engraving. I tried to talk to them about the price a long-time ago and they were not hearing it. So, I moved on.

I have never had any luck with these people. Won't respond.Won't answer questions. Won't negotiate. Most of the desireable guns they get see to have "something odd about them" and never enough info or pictures to make a judgement.

Stan Hoover 06-08-2026 04:48 PM

Parker Lifter
 
6 Attachment(s)
These are pictures I received from these gentlemen in February 2024.

Going off of memory here now, I think the gun is for sale since 2023.

I did find them very easy to deal with and purchased an L4 12 gauge and a non Parker hammer gun from them at the 2025 Las Vegas show.

Bill Murphy 06-08-2026 07:45 PM

What does 3708 or 3908 say in the SB. My book is so dog eared that I can't find those numbers.

David Noble 06-08-2026 10:48 PM

I think the adjustable wedge on the rear lug is interesting.
I guess it keeps the barrels "tight on face".


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