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Steven Gray
05-02-2026, 10:30 AM
Hello looking at 20ga vhe shooter at Mid south guns he wants almost 4k for it just dont wanna get burnt.
Thanks Steven

Bob Jurewicz
05-02-2026, 11:20 AM
Sounds high for just a "shooter" condition gun.
Bob Jurewicz

Daryl Corona
05-02-2026, 11:21 AM
We need more than just 20ga VHE shooter. A description of the gun would help.

Steven Gray
05-02-2026, 11:30 AM
We need more than just 20ga VHE shooter. A description of the gun would help.

20ga 28" barrels modified and full chokes 2 3/4 chambers all numbers matching i can send you pictures pm your email
Thanks, Steven

Steven Gray
05-02-2026, 11:30 AM
Sounds high for just a "shooter" condition gun.
Bob Jurewicz

I can send you pictures sir

Harold Lee Pickens
05-02-2026, 02:49 PM
Seems high for a "shooter".
Check out Steven Hodges beautiful Trojan 20 in fantastic condition for less money. Also Bob Fabian just sold a 20 VH for less money.

Steven Gray
05-02-2026, 03:03 PM
Seems high for a "shooter".
Check out Steven Hodges beautiful Trojan 20 in fantastic condition for less money. Also Bob Fabian just sold a 20 VH for less money.

I was advised that its above shooter grade by Bob Jurewicz i can email you pictures if you would like

edgarspencer
05-02-2026, 06:51 PM
Ejectors generally increase the value, even though I don't care one way or the other. The trend seems to favor longer barrels, so 28" is a plus. When you consider that a 26" VH is selling above $3000, if the gun you're considering has any condition, $4000 is in the right neighborhood. Just my opinion.

Daryl Corona
05-02-2026, 07:13 PM
Posting those pictures you have here will be a big help. It's easy.

Bob Jurewicz
05-02-2026, 07:44 PM
Steve sent me some pictures by text on my phone if I knew how to put them from the phone to this forum I would do it, but I do not
So I’ll give you my take on what I saw the gun looks all original with a original looking Hawkins pad Good blue 20 to 30% case color great checkering, looks like about 70 to 80% original blue wood looks good with lots of original finish and good sharp checkering. It’s a gun that I would be proud to own.

Bob Jurewicz
05-03-2026, 08:44 AM
I think I figured it out.

Bob Jurewicz
05-03-2026, 08:49 AM
Steve,
What is the "shading" on the left barrel above the forend? I did not notice this on the small phone screen.
Bob Jurewicz

Steven Gray
05-03-2026, 08:52 AM
Steve,
What is the "shading" on the left barrel above the forend? I did not notice this on the small phone screen.
Bob Jurewicz

I want say thats probably my Grimmy finger prints sir I didnt wipe it back down after I fondled all over it like a teenager on prom night 🤦

edgarspencer
05-03-2026, 08:54 AM
Nice gun. No one has tried to 'freshen' it up.

Andrew Sacco
05-03-2026, 09:18 AM
He sent me some photos and I told him if he likes it and it fits him to buy it, the price didn't seem out of line. Also, I checked the book it all matches up with original length barrels, he did check that all serial numbers match. Sometimes that's all we can do. Looks like a nice Parker.

Daryl Corona
05-03-2026, 10:02 AM
I sent you an email Mr. Gray.

My philosophy on smallbores in good condition is "you don't pay too much, you just paid it early". Smallbore shotguns in decent condition have always held their own in the market.

Steven Gray
05-03-2026, 10:08 AM
[QUOTE=Daryl Corona;448369]I sent you an email Mr. Gray.

My philosophy on smallbores in good condition is "you don't pay too much, you just paid it early". Smallbore shotguns in decent condition have always held their own in the market.[/QUOTE

Yes sir, they ive seen no matter the maker
Steven

Phil Yearout
05-03-2026, 12:10 PM
You never pay too much for a gun you love. If you can afford it, market value be damned. JMO

Steven Gray
05-03-2026, 12:55 PM
Well if all works out it will check alot boxes for me.
1. First Parker
2. Sub gauge
3. Light weight
4. Ejectors
5. Fine American made shotgun.

Andrew Sacco
05-03-2026, 01:17 PM
My advice is jump on it already if it’s checking those boxes. I’ve lost a lot of desired guns by overthinking or trying to penny pinch. Go in with a pocket full of dead presidents and make a deal.

Steven Gray
05-03-2026, 01:20 PM
My advice is jump on it already if it’s checking those boxes. I’ve lost a lot of desired guns by overthinking or trying to penny pinch. Go in with a pocket full of dead presidents and make a deal.

I have as well but thats life. Im gonna talk to the owner monday to see if he has any wiggle room if not I'll probably still buy it but it never hurts to ask I guess.
Thanks, Steven.

John B White
05-03-2026, 01:30 PM
Buy the ticket. Take the ride

allen newell
05-08-2026, 03:45 PM
$3500 all day long

John B White
05-08-2026, 06:15 PM
Good luck on the purchase. Hope it works in your favor.

Steven Gray
05-08-2026, 06:20 PM
Good luck on the purchase. Hope it works in your favor.

Thank you sir there was no wiggle room in price with that all said and done im into almost 4300 taxes included which is still cheaper than any 0 frame 20 vhe ive found.

William Machauer
05-08-2026, 06:35 PM
November of 23 I got a call from a guy, hey I've got a Parker 20 for sale. I said I'm on my way!
28"VH PG & aftermarket beaver tail with good blue and probably 75% C.C. cost me $2500 and I couldn't pay him fast enough!
It lettered as 1914 with 28" ,PG. with i/c & mod.
I believe at some point it was turned into a skeet gun, left barrel shoots more like i/c and a Miller trigger was installed. The BT forearm is checkered in Flurs-de-le and done poorly!
Do I care? HECK NO!! It has become my go-to bird gun.

Steven Gray
05-08-2026, 06:38 PM
November of 23 I got a call from a guy, hey I've got a Parker 20 for sale. I said I'm on my way!
28"VH PG & aftermarket beaver tail with good blue and probably 75% C.C. cost me $2500 and I couldn't pay him fast enough!
It lettered as 1914 with 28" ,PG. with i/c & mod.
I believe at some point it was turned into a skeet gun, left barrel shoots more like i/c and a Miller trigger was installed. The BT forearm is checkered in Flurs-de-le and done poorly!
Do I care? HECK NO!! It has become my go-to bird gun.

Nice looking vh sir

edgarspencer
05-08-2026, 07:12 PM
Steve, at $4300, for an all original ejector 20 choked as it is,, you did very well in my book.

Steven Gray
05-08-2026, 07:29 PM
Steve, at $4300, for an all original ejector 20 choked as it is,, you did very well in my book.

If we go by guns international prices or southern prices 🤦I didnt do bad the gun came from a 93 year old fellow that Phillip Futrell the owner of Mid South Guns in Wagram, NC who he bought 20 guns from. But as far as I know right now its a 1927 or 1928 gun with 28 inch tubes modified and full choked with 2 3/4 chambers all checked with a galazan chamber and choke gauge. Also 15" lop to a Hawkins pad but its too long on paper but doesn't feel like its that long shouldered.

William Machauer
05-09-2026, 05:11 AM
Thanks Steve, you done good on yours as well!

Steven Gray
05-09-2026, 09:02 AM
Thanks Steve, you done good on yours as well!

Your welcome I wish we had good bird hunting here and didnt have to pay a outfitter or hunting lodge a small fortune but I understand everybody has to be paid and the money goes toward land up keep. Also sir what ammo are you using?

Thanks, Steven

Harold Lee Pickens
05-09-2026, 09:15 AM
Steve, I shoot standard 2 3/4" shells thru my VH, VHE, PH 20 s. I also reload low pressure 3/4and 7/8 loads for higher volume shooting, like sporting clays

Steven Gray
05-09-2026, 09:20 AM
Steve, I shoot standard 2 3/4" shells thru my VH, VHE, PH 20 s. I also reload low pressure 3/4and 7/8 loads for higher volume shooting, like sporting clays

Thank you sir, i really like the looks of the Ph guns Phil had 3 or 4 Ph guns one has a void in the barrel 🙈 but one day id like to have one of each up to a dh grade.
Steven

edgarspencer
05-09-2026, 10:46 AM
Thank you sir, i really like the looks of the Ph guns Phil had 3 or 4 Ph guns one has a void in the barrel 🙈 but one day id like to have one of each up to a dh grade.
Steven

Why stop at a D grade?😂

Steven Gray
05-09-2026, 10:58 AM
Why stop at a D grade?😂

Well if the price was right I guess anythings possible. But anything past a bh or bhe is all but past the realm of possibilities. Unless i was gifted one which is highly unlikely. But one of those California 20ga duck guns mentioned in Ed Muderlak's "Old reliable" would definitely be cool. But through this forum I did talk to the current care taker of the bhe on the cover which was really cool.

Thanks, Steven

William Machauer
05-09-2026, 11:19 AM
I shoot reloads. I use Herco, 20/28 powder and 3/4 oz of shot.
On occasion I will shoot Federal Top Gun factory ammo.
During covid I scored a skeet shooters estate sale, 9k primers, multiple 4 pounders of powders, wads, 2 50gal drums of AA 12 & 20 ga once fired hulls, shot and MEC Grabbers in 410,28,20,12 and charge bars & bushings for 500 bucks!

Steven Gray
05-09-2026, 11:41 AM
I shoot reloads. I use Herco, 20/28 powder and 3/4 oz of shot.
On occasion I will shoot Federal Top Gun factory ammo.
During covid I scored a skeet shooters estate sale, 9k primers, multiple 4 pounders of powders, wads, 2 50gal drums of AA 12 & 20 ga once fired hulls, shot and MEC Grabbers in 410,28,20,12 and charge bars & bushings for 500 bucks!

😮😮😮 wow thats a steel of a deal auctions can be good after all.

William Machauer
05-09-2026, 02:46 PM
Actually it wasn't an auction, a guy I know knew the son

Steven Gray
05-09-2026, 03:28 PM
Actually it wasn't an auction, a guy I know knew the son

Still an awesome deal none the less depending on which mec reloaders thats easily $3500 all by its own. Not including the drum of powder or the charge bars that arent cheap them selves.

William Machauer
05-09-2026, 04:48 PM
All the machines are very experienced Grabbers, I had to do some parts changing and some adjustments but yes the whole deal was a bargain!