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Larry Frey
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 Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 12:36 am

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There were a lot of comments about my wife’s;) new gun that she acquired and shot very well with at the recent shoot at Hidden Hollow. My friend Dean really liked it as he was able to clean his first station ever using this gun.:shock:  I was really hoping to get a letter to help explain some of the unusual features of this gun but unfortunately there is no information available. Therefore I thought the next best thing would be to show some pictures here and get some opinions. The gun 205348 is a Grade 6 12 gage with 30" Acme barrels. There is a second set of Grade 7 Damascus barrels with a second forend both stamped #2 and numbered to the gun. Enjoy the pics and feel free to give your opinions. 

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 Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 12:40 am

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Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Those are my thoughts.  :D

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I thought all grade 7 guns had Whitworth barrels. Judging from the fit of the dolls head and the barrels to the breech it's a good bet the barrels were fitted at the factory.

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The gun has pretty nice wood and a squashed silvers pad. Next question would be where’s the gold grip cap?

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Perhaps the owner did not want the gold cap to draw attention from his initials nicely inlayed in the trigger guard?

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The Damascus barrels are 27" with matting right to the end and both barrels choked cylinder. Cut barrels perhaps?

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But the keels are intact!

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Here's the Damascus barrel flats and forend iron. Notice the grade 7 and #2 stampings as well as the reinforced forend iron.

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Finally the Acme barrels with standard forend lug and stamped grade 6 #1.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 01:08 am

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I would think the reinforced barrel lug indicates a trap or pigeon shooter.  I would also think original 28" barrels cut to 27".  

What kind of choke is left in the 27" barrel and how is it chambered?

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John, not sure about the chambers but the 27's are choked cylinder in both barrels which led me to believe they were cut. If they were it would likely have been from a 30" or greater to remove the Parker choke which would normally be 3-5". I've been told reinstalling keels is not something that just anyone can do which also makes me believe the job was done in Meriden.

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Larry,As soon as I saw that twinkle in your eye on Friday I was willing to bet even money that gun had found a new home.;)

It is my opinion that those barrels (if in fact are cut) were done at the factory.

Also...According to my 1923 Parker pocket catalog Grade 6 AHE guns came furnished with Acme steel barrels.

Hope this helps a little....



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My opinion, you have a lovely wife (and she shoots!) and at least two beautiful guns. I would say it can't get any better but it will when you find the "next" gun :). I agree the 27" inch barrels were probably done at the factory based on the quality of the fit and the keels which you have pointed out.  Interesting that it is a combination of damascus and fluid numbered to the gun,  perhaps the orginal owner wanted a set for show and set for business/modern ammo?

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Larry, I don't think those are the former owner's initials but that Destiny has proclaimed that Parker to be "Technically Deb's Shotgun"

Notice the engraved band behind the wedges on the barrel breeches are done in almost the exact style as the engraving around the breech balls. Simply beautiful in every way. Somehow, somewhere there must be some information on that gun. Have you contacted Mark?

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Dean, I talked to Mark for quite a while tonight. We as Parker collectors are really lucky to have the resources that we have and people willing to share their time and information so freely. In checking TPS it seems that there were three grade seven guns made with Damascus barrels. None were made to 27" so the barrels were most likely cut at some point. Also it says most grade 7's after 1902 came with single triggers. This gun is stamped on the trigger plate L and R where the trigger selector once was. Obviously this gun was changed from a single to double triggers. I think a letter on this gun would be long and very interesting.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 02:32 am

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Larry Frey wrote:  I think a letter on this gun would be long and very interesting.




. . . if only.

Keep digging Larry, something has to come up on that Parker. Run with those initials - that's all you have at this point, there's got to be something somewhere.

How about Thomas Donald Stuart Purdey

Or try "T Steel" T. D. S. agent for Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show 1878


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Larry: my 1918 26" GHE12 has matting to the bbl ends, has keels in place, and letters with 26" bbls. Maybe they made it longer and it didn't sell then someone ordered a 26" damascus ghe12 so they just cut them and sent it out???

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Larry, that is a beautiful gun, the damascus barrels are stunning.  PLUS, my initials are TDS :shock:.  Enjoy that sweet little thang.

Tim

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Stunning!! I am sure the pictures don't do it justice...!! Wow...I guess Tim gets dibs on the beauty...

Kurt

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 Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 11:13 am

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Hey Tim, you find one with LMF on the trigger guard and we can trade.;)


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