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Dean Romig
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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 05:11 pm

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I buy those "roping" gloves too but I remove (tediously) the palm patch - too bulky for my liking.

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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 05:13 pm

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Dean, they make them both ways, with and without the palm patch. Riders often like the ones without palm patch for just holding the reins but if you are running rope  through the gloves or pulling the horse along the palm patch wears better.  

That little grizzly wouldn't move and I had to walk and pull hard to get the horse past him. 

In the Bob Marshall Wilderness, northwest Montana, somewhere west of Augusta.   

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In your picture we call that "beetle kill" and it's really bad out here in Colorado, especially from Vail to Silverthorn and south to Breckenridge.  100,000's of thousands of dead brown trees.  Actually Vail spent huge sums of money in the last four years to clean the dead ones from the forrest's as the threat of fires was so bad.

 

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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 05:47 pm

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Is that a result of Spruce Budworm or some other bug?

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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 06:02 pm

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Yup, its all through the Rockies. Ripe for big fires, that stuff is like tinder waiting for a lightning strike.

 Sun River drainage, native cutts, Chinese Wall forward and up. Wolves, grizzlies, black bears, lots of elk, lions, moose, deer and a Colt 45 in a Heiser holster.   

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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 06:07 pm

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Bark beetles have been a huge problem in Southern California for years, especially in the San Bernardino Mountains.  The USFS has actually sent in helicopter logging crews to clear thousands of dead trees in the usual burn areas.  The county FDs have also issued tree removal orders to land owners with dead trees.  When that program first started, the owners' costs were upwards of $1K each for big trees (60-80 ft), and then the feds stepped in with their crews.  That was a big relief.

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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 06:21 pm

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Bruce,

Always been Resistol for me (see top-left). I've had that particular one since I was about 13. It was a little too big for me when I bought it but I eventually grew into it. It has seen many a feedlot/catch pen/roping box/deer hunt/bird hunt in the past 30 yrs. It works for just about everything except turkey hunts. Although I have others in nicer condition, this is the one that gets the call when it's go-time. I'll probably keep wearing it until it's in the condition of Jed Clampett's old hat. Destry's Jones hat comes to mind.

The GH and DH are both damascus, but the finer pattern of the DH doesn't show up well in photos taken at that distance. If you look close you can see the barber-pole weld spirals though.

Concerning the roping gloves, the Justins are about as good (thin, soft, supple) as they get and the palm reinforcement is unobtrusive. I buy them for shooting in the smallest size I can comfortably get my hands into. That makes for better dexterity handling safeties, triggers, and shells.

 Oddly enough, I don't prefer them for their intended purpose (roping). For that I prefer a white cotton-knit stretch glove.

Edit: Oh yeah, thanks for the compliment!

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Beautiful guns, Jim. Of course as knowledgeable as you are about gunsmithing and Parkers, I wouldn't  expect anything less.

I usually wear a western hat , straw or felt, when hunting, except when the wind keeps blowing it off and I am afraid my buddy Charlie Herzog will think its a rabbit bouncing along and shoot it.   



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Ha! Ha! Well, let me tell you - not being used to hunting in the 40 mph "breezes" you good plains folk are used to, it only took me about one good 1/2 mile of chasing that SOB across the Kansas prarie to make sure I kept it down tight and kept my head low on a flushing pheasant until he turned downwind ( which, as you know, only takes a nanosecond in that kind of wind). Thankfully, there's no photograpic record of that! Where I'm from, a 40 mph wind usually means a severe T-storm.  No hunting, flying, or anything else fun outdoors.

I know a little bit about fixing up "bottom feeders" as EDM calls them, but when it comes to real Parker lore and history, my hat is off to you guys (pun intended). I have learned an incredible amount of stuff here over the years from you and many others.

Thanks, again.

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Hat strings, stampede strings, whatever you call them are the answer, cinched snug.

We hunt regularly in the gentle zephyrs at 20-25mph, 30 is iffy and 40 only if its the last or first day. A day without wind just doesn't feel natural. Western Kansas is among the windiest areas in North America.  

My regular hunting hunting guns are a PHE 16ga fluid steel and a GHE 12ga damascus, both of which were looked down upon some including whom you mention as mere shooters and wallhangers. It took me 20 years to move out from that status and start to acquire some fancy guns, then I go hunting with the fellows who really do have world class collections and find that they are carrying worn V and G grade shooters and wallhangers also. So, if a person is a bottom feeder, he may find himself in some pretty good company.  I regularly hunt with a group that calls themselves the Minnesota Chapter of Bottomfeeders Anonymous.     

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Yeah, those pics were taken in Ensign, about 11 mi. out of Dodge City. And I can imagine that you probably wouldn't willingly subject yourself to 40 mph given the choice, but when you've driven 1100 mi. to get there you go any day the guide is willing to give it a try. We were lucky most of the times I've been there, but the last day of the last trip I took out there was brutal (fortunately it wasn't that cold that day). The hunt was still rewarding, but certainly a real challenge.

I always marvel at the guys from out there who fly the little taildraggers I love to play with. I don't know how they do it. I suppose the lack of trees makes for more steady, less turbulent winds than we have, but still...which brings me to a question I'd love to ask you: How did the BUFF handle in stiff winds with that top secret compensating gear?

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Were you hunting south of Ensign on those center  pivot irrigation corners of that large landowner? I forgot his name but he winters in Fla or Tx and they have about 30 irrigation wheels. If so , the pictures I posted of our hunt in Dec were from there.

I am going to be bicycling across Kansas in a few weeks on the regular state ride, going north of Dodge, and will keep an eye out for good hunting land. A few years ago I biked the length of the Solomon River and found a lot of good spots. Just avoid the pheasants flying into you or the bike. A buddy of mine is going to run for state office so we are going to eat pie, shake hands and kiss babies all the way across.  

The Buff gear could swivel to accomodate 45 deg at 45 kts or 90deg at 35 kts,  if I remember correctly.   

Near here, Coronado crossed the Arkansas River in 1540 in search of the lost golden city of Quivera.      
Here, Charlie Herzog waded across the Arkansas River in 2008 in search of Ingalls, Kansas.

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No, we were hunting on a family farm called Twin Pines Ranch, owned by Marvin Hertel. A real salt-of-the-earth kind of guy, modest and humble. He grows wheat and milo, cattle, prairie dogs, and guides for pheasants on his place for extra income. He also has an impressive shop where he does mechanic work for his equipment, and a lot of his neighbors. All meals prepared by his wife, much of the fare raised right there on the farm, etc.  No gourmet stuff, just good solid farmhouse meals. They don't strike me as the kind of folks who take vacations, much less winter somewhere! They just work. Great hosts, I might add. He does a fair amount of irrigation, but not the extent you describe. If I remember, he said he owned 4000 acres, and leased another 4000. I remember there is a big "wind farm" within sight of his place. His address is on Co. Rd. 101. It's a Controlled Shooting Area, but with a large percentage of wild birds. Not the most impressive dogs, but they got the job done.  Rates were very reasonable. Being raised on a family cattle and hay farm, I felt right at home, except for the larger scale of western farming which I found impressive.

A friend of mine just got back from a trip to So. Dak. (to the farm he usually hunts) this past weekend, and dodged phez in the truck all the time. They tell me that breeding season makes them oblivious to the traffic. He finally caught one he couldn't avoid, mid-windshield.
Be careful out there! (Thanks for the BUFF info).

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Mike,  If you post those pics you mentioned, we'll let you have your thread back.  Aren't we nice?

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YOU HIJACKERS!!:D I can't post pics of the barrels yet because the Smith is takin gout a dent. So, keep jabbering. I'll get them up there, probably on page 92 of this thread. Besides, what could be more interesting than the gloves we wear?

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BUSTED!!! Guilty (among others) as charged, I must confess. But, since you haven't updated since the first day you posted, we were sorta thinking the thread was abandoned. Squatter's rights, or something. Thanks for being a good sport. I'll  check p. 92 for those pics. We want to see them.

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