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Ed Blake
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 12:36 pm |
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| I'm surprised the Acme barrels don't have the reinforced loop. I thought all high grade guns had that feature from what I remember reading in TPS. Very nice indeed. What are the chokes in the Acme set?
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Larry Frey
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 12:56 pm |
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Ed, I also recall reading that above a certain grade that the reinforced lug was standard but I'm not sure if it was grade 6 or 7. The chokes on the 30" Acme set are right .032 and left .039 and extend almost 5" into the barrels. The gun also has a non automatic safety.
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 02:25 pm |
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Not so fast! There is a Thomas Durant Schiffer living here on Gumpowder Road!
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Ed Blake
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 02:31 pm |
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| Larry, it sounds like someone had themselves a skeet/trap set-up with the open chokes on the damascus barrels and tight ones on the Acmes.
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 03:00 pm |
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Larry;
If that gun was mine I would take the butt pad off and see if there are any hidden momentos or other items of interest. You are a machinest and butt pad removal should be a snap.
Other than my suggestion to destroy a beautiful gun I have nothing further to say except congratulations to your wife on a fine job of breaking clays at HHH.
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 03:39 pm |
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Thanks Roger I will pass along your congratulations. She was complaining the gun was a little long so I was thinking about chopping of an inch or so and adding a new White Line pad.
Actually as they say the plot thickens. I received an email from a friend who had a picture of a AAHE with an almost identical trigger guard. Judging from the picture it is highly likely that the same person ordered both guns. The really good news is that the gun pictured below is listed in the A&F records so I may be able to find who the original owner was after all.
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 04:17 pm |
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| Nice gun Larry, good luck with it.
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 05:40 pm |
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Larry,
Very nice Parker... What are the stock dimensions, LOP, DAC, DAH?...
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 06:20 pm |
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Chris, The pad is crushed from many years in a gun cabinet but I measure the gun as follows LOP=14 1/4", DAC=1 5/8", and DAH=2 5/8".
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 11:34 pm |
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I think it is a little late for trades now that Deb has won the American with it. 
As to the TDS, the reference Dean cites above is presumably from the 2001 Julia sale which is online item No. 719.
Fine English ivory and silver handle carving set with a 10" blade marked with the manufacturer's name of "HARRISON BROS. & HAWSON" and agent-marked "T STEEL & SON / HARTFORD"....The lid is embossed in Old English script "T.D.S./1878". These are apparently the initials of the agent T. Steel.
Julia has the name of the manufacturer of the cutlery wrong it should be Harrison Bros & Howson of Norfolk St. Sheffield. Cutler to her majesty. See generally,
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=2319
Harrison Bros & Howson are still in business in the UK, so perhaps there are records as to their 19th Century agent. "If" all of this conjecture were fact, we have the Connecticut importer of the very finest British Cutlery buying a high grade shotgun with their trademark on the trigger guard from the Gun Division of one of America's largest manufacturers of Cutlery. Do we know if T. Steel & Co. perhaps also sold Parker Cutlery?
So, there could be a really good story here. And, as it revolves around Meriden to Hartford, it is all local, so you just might still find the records with a bit of searching in the local historical societies.
Also, interesting as we know Parker was selling guns to the Buffalo Bill show, and now we know that the show was also buying high end cutlery through T.Steel per the set sold by Julia. It does not sound that far fetched given the overlap betweent these companies.
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