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Bruce Day
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 07:27 pm |
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| A genuinely worn gun with barrels refinished. SN 194,859(1921) PHE 16/28, 1 frame, pg, splf, dt, dhbp, 6lbs 11oz. refinished barrels, refinished stock, chased checkering, sears recut twice, springs replaced twice, barrels not honed. Overhauled twice. Forend lug resoldered. Tens of thousands of rounds and a bunch of heavy pheasant loads. Joe and Rudy Kautzky said it would last and it has. I can't wear it out, although I've tried, and it even has some case colors left. Attached Image (viewed 371 times):
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 07:39 pm |
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SN 194,589. 5 fletches on the forward arrow, 6 on the rear. I know a person is supposed to look at the arrow fletches and determine something, but on my guns, they are often a different count from front to rear.
This is the same as the little 410, five on the front and six on the rear.
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Charlie Price
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 12:17 pm |
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| I should not have made any implication that the gun in Greg's pictures was a fake. It is NOT! So far as I can tell, it is all correct although recolored. I was sent additional pictures which shows this PHE in more detail. Also, as I now recall, the serial number of the upgrade I saw in Louisville was in a stock book as a VHE. Charlie
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David Lien
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 05:56 pm |
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Last month while attending the Winchester gun show and anual meeting at Cody Wyo. I took in the Cody museum. They had Four 410 Parkers on display. Two VH guns that looked to be in good condition. One VHE 000 Frame # 239706, and a CHE Skeet Gun #239411. They Also had three 8 Ga. Parkers One G grade 6 Frame #155784 one G Grade 6 Frame #141715 and one P Grade 6 Frame #110453. Two 1/2 frame guns, and about two dozen other parkers to include an A1 SC trap#179117 . (Good Display) and on the main floor. Not in the basement.
With Airstream in tow we left Cody for the Airstream international Rally in Bozeman Mont. Here I met a nice old couple from Kansas, they had a Parker CHE 16 Ga. and a VHE 410. This was a His and hers combo, as they had hunted Quail and Pheasants togather all of their married life, and had two pictue albums to show for their efforts. They presented a Show and tell program. Very nice people and fun to listen to. Sooooo I got to look at more Parker 410's last month than I usually do, living out here in the sticks.
Okay MURPHY I gathered up all the serial #'s. Have you any information on a J. J. Randall??? Shooting a L.C. Smith 32" VR no saftey specalty grade ( Maybe a house shooter), in the 1920's. Lots of side notes in the Cody records, but they did not know the meaning of the notations. David Lien
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 08:03 pm |
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| Bill Headrick just sent me a nice copy of a fancy book Gamefield Classics that he and Mike McIntosh put together. It has nice sections about Parkers, Foxes, Mod 70's etc, the usual, but it also has a nice chapter about the Red Ryder small smallbores. Naturally, this will create further interest. There is not a chapter on the 410. Now far be it from me to say that I am ahead of my time, but....... Attached Image (viewed 267 times):
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 08:03 pm |
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| Now where is the chapter on the Parker 410? Attached Image (viewed 264 times):
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 08:05 pm |
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Now where I have I seen this gun and case before?
It just goes to show these Red Ryders, particularly the Limited Edition Ducks Unlimited Bo Whoopee Special, rank right up there with the fanciest Parkers.
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 08:46 pm |
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| I think I recognize that carved leather case and gold wired buttstock. "Not" a .410.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 09:09 pm |
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| Bill, I know you have recently learned "spurious". I am now "prescient" about these small smallbores.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 09:33 pm |
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Bruce Day wrote: Bill, I know you have recently learned "spurious". I am now "prescient" about these small smallbores.
The "B.B. King" of clairvoyants 
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 10:44 pm |
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| Dave, J.J. Randall, Grand Island, Nebraska, no street address. Shot 2500 16 yard birds in 1928, for a 95.20 average. Shot 100 handicap birds and broke 98. He shot 200 doubles targets, averaging 90.30 He was a professional but I don't know for which company. He is listed as a high volume, high average professional shooter from 1924 to 1942 always living in Grand Island. I didn't check on him after the war and never saw a notation about his employer.
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David Lien
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 12:46 am |
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Thanks Murphy: I bought the L. C, Smith from Turnbull a while back at the Vegas gun show. He "kinda -sorta thought that the gun was an east cost gun. The gun has good Trap dimension's and has been shot a lot , but still shoots good.
I have another Nebraska no saftey gun. A VH Parker #165296 that was shipped to F. H. Raulsem of Scribner Nebraska With special full chokes, light triggers, two inches drop at the heel, a silvers pad, and Twin Lyman sights. Do you have any idea who F. H Raulsem was????Maybe he was a professional shooter too??? David Lien
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RICHARD L ANDERSON
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 12:45 pm |
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| Nebraska must be quite a trapshooting state. I have a DHE 30 inch vent rib trap gun with the name B. C. Mellman, Cozad NE engraved on the left barrel.
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