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James T. Kucaba PGCA Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 4th, 2007 05:05 am |
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There are three different brands of gauge reducing inserts on the market ... Little Skeeters, Chamber Mates, and Gaugemates that come in two different styles, the Silver Gaugemates, and the Gold Gaugemates ... I'd like to hear the Pros and Cons of the different brands and different types from those of you who shoot with gauge reducers in your Parker guns.
THANKS ! ... Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com
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Harry Collins PGCA Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 4th, 2007 03:06 pm |
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James,
I have two sets of Savage Four Tenners. One set for 12 gauge and another for 20. They work great, but I don't think they are made anymore. I do have a set of 10/12 Gauge-Mate Silvers. Through experimentation I find the best way for me is to extract one Gauge-Mate along with the shell, push the shell out, insert the Gauge-Mate, do the other chamber then reload. It really does not take that much time. If you purchase Gauge-Mates and it has the slit down the side as the 10/12's and I think the 12/16's you will not be able to reload the spent hulls. They expand into the slit and weaken the hull to much to rely on again. I have thought if I had it to do over again I would purchase the Gold, but I have never used them nor have I seen them used.
Harry
Last edited on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 03:07 pm by Harry Collins
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Larry Frey PGCA Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 4th, 2007 04:09 pm |
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I have a set of 12/20 Chamber Mates and although they cost more than the Gagemates they are of two piece construction that allows your extractor/ejectors to function as normal eliminating manual removal of the inserts/shells.
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Erick Dorr PGCA Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 4th, 2007 07:55 pm |
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James,
I have a set of the Little Skeeters by Browning. At only $40-$50/pair they are worth a try. I use a 10 to 12 ga reducer in my Damascus EH. The reducer is extracted with the shell. I find that one skeeter allows the spent shell to drop out when turned upside down and the second skeeter requires that I push it out with my finger, etc. They are only chamber length ± reducers but I find that they will break clays out to 50 yards if I do my part.
For the price I am satisfied. Best wishes on whatever you select.
Erick
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Bill Murphy PGCA Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2007 12:10 pm |
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I have a set of 12/28 chambermates and like them because they have extractors. However they are expensive. If I plan to use the gun a lot, I prefer full length Briley tubes with screw in chokes. I have those in several guns.
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paul harm PGCA Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2007 04:59 pm |
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I had 12/28 Silvers- seemed to work ok. Now have 10/12 Golds that cost alot more. I read where some have taken the Silvers and ground about 3/4 of the rim off so only the part left rest against the extractor. That way you don't have to remove the Gauge-Mate to take the shell out. That is the way my Golds are made. Another friend bought two sets of the Silvers- that way when shooting skeet he doesn't hold anyone up , always has a pair ready. Paul
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Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2007 10:32 pm |
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Hi Jim,
Here is my $0.00002..
Skeeters are fine for hunting, where faster reloads do not count. I also notice that dropping a single gauge with skeeters - they will pattern pretty well. When you drop two gauges (like 12 -> 20 or 16 ->28), that pattern does fall off...
I have 3 gauges of Rhino's (similar to Chambermates, I think?) that do have screw in chokes. They are about 14" in length, and use replacement rubber gaskets to seal the tubes in the barrels - and will take advantage of the ejectors/extractors in the Parkers I own. However, as the bore dimensions vary from Parker to Parker, they do require different size "O-ring" gaskets, so I set them up before heading out...
And yes - the pattern is pretty good from these things...
HTH!
John
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Bill Murphy PGCA Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 6th, 2007 01:07 am |
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Paul's idea about grinding part of the rim away to allow purchase on the shell rim is a good one. It simplifies the removal of the shell when hunting or shooting skeet or sporting clays. I know it needs more explanation, but again, it is a good idea.
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