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Bill Bolyard
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 02:09 pm |
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Thats right Prarie Chickens, You know Bruce the day we hunted when the wind was blowing 30mph those high flyers put us to the test. Charley shot one that dropped at least 200 yards away. From what I herd those long tailed Birds are easy, but not that day. The quail on the other hand flew like little rockets. My Dad use to use a term (he fled like Quail) refering to someone leaving in a hurry. I now understand the term more clearly. The shooting was far from easy and nothing like preserve birds.
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james w van blaricum,III
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 05:12 pm |
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Its one thing to have your dog run over and survive, but there were reports of rattle snakes being out on warm days in January. Sure glad that didn't happen to us.
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Mike Shepherd
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 08:59 pm |
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Bill Bolyard wrote: The quail on the other hand flew like little rockets. My Dad use to use a term (he fled like Quail) refering to someone leaving in a hurry. I now understand the term more clearly. The shooting was far from easy and nothing like preserve birds.
I entered several field trials last spring and summer in the National Shoot to Retrieve Association's program. I shot a few hundred pen raised birds over my turdhounds trying to get us up to a competitive level. When quail season opened in November I was shocked at the difference in acceleration between the pen raised and wild Bobwhites. The wild Bobwhites reminded me of bottle rockets. A little bit of warning noise and then a streak.
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Mike
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Bill Bolyard
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 10:08 pm |
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Mike,
The Pheasants were also using after burners, you are on the mark, nothing like preserve birds that I have shot.
I am happy to report Parker is doing fine, I took her to the Vet today and other than a few stiches she is in good shape. She seems to be a little shy of woman driving cars though.
Bill
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 10:22 pm |
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Bill Bolyard wrote: The Pheasants were also using after burners, you are on the mark, nothing like preserve birds that I have shot.
That's what makes head shots fun. Doc Van hit a bird with a head shot and it rotated to about a 60 degree angle of climb. I was under it, gun ready for a second shot, but it went up and up, a good 50yards up, then just stalled out and crashed dead. A nice big second year bird.
Tough, hard, fast birds. And thats no
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Bill Bolyard
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 10:36 pm |
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Bruce,
The night I spent with Doc and his wife he told me of a hunt he had in one of the popular Pheasant states. He was posted at the end of a field for a drive and at the end he had lined up six roosters on the ground in front of him, a young man walked up and asked if he had any action? When he saw the birds and Docs Parker he said " You shot them with that"
Doc is one fine wing shot. I only hope that one day I could be so good.
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 10:49 pm |
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Any comments on rattle snakes
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Bill Bolyard
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 10:53 pm |
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Roger,
It ot pretty cold at night mostly in the 20s. The warmest was 70, idid not see any signs of snakes at all.
Bill
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Bill Bolyard
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 10:57 pm |
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| I looked into the snake vaccination have any of you used it and does it work?
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Mike Shepherd
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 11:09 pm |
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I lost one of my housedogs/birddogs after a rattlesnake bite in the summer of 2007. The dog that died had been snake "proofed" twice. That was third time one of my dog's got bit by a rattlesnake and the first time one died. I had venom injection all three times. Spring and early Summer seem to be when most of the bites occur around here.
In Amarillo in all three instances only one veterinarian had the anti-venom and is still the only one.
I now vaccinate all my dogs. The one that died hadn't been vaccinated.
The vaccine has been tested for a relatively few species of rattlesnake. If, after vaccination, a dog gets bit the veterinarian treatment should be the same as for a dog that hasn't been vaccinated.
My friend has a Vizla that was bit after vaccination and all she got was a Walnut size lump at the bite site. I have read that 40% of the time the rattlesnake doesn't inject venom so there is no way to know if the Vizla got injected.
Hopes this helps.
Best,
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 11:29 pm |
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Kansas pheasant season starts Nov 1 and quail Nov 8. I have never seen a snake out here during bird season, although it is possible very early on if its warm. During dove season certainly it can be an issue. I have heard of one instance where a bird dog died of a bite and that dog was a small Brit hit on the nose.
Duck and goose hunting has been good all week. I talked to a fellow up in Blue Rapids today ( NE KS) who said he sees lots of pheasants picking corn up along the gravel roads on his way home.
Bill, I'm glad they were prairie chickens. I was concerned that they might be Rhode Island Reds and I didn't even want to go there.
FYI, our prairie chicken season ends in SW KS Dec 31, and goes through Jan 31 in the north. Prairie chickens are a wonderful bird to hunt and a big male makes a great mounted trophy.
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