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Jerry Mouer
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 12:54 am |
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I have been offered a set of 28ga Damascus barrels. They have been cut from 28" down to 26 1/4". The outside is worn, but no rust or pitting, the bores are bright with some pitting in both bores. The bores measure .562 with about a 1/2" of choke left, about .004 in both barrels. There is a small ivory center bead, the muzzle bead is gone, but thread hole is there. ( serial#116338).
I have a 16ga 0 frame (75700) that come within about .020" of closing with these barrels, so I would liketo give the man a fair (?) price for them. Anyone have any ides? How often do you run across a set of 28ga barrel, in any condition? Any comments would be helpfull.
Thanks, Jerry
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Harry Collins
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 01:05 am |
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Jerry,
Jump all over them. I have never seen a set of 28 gauge barrels offered, but then again I don't have my head to the ground as some here do. I have only seen one 28 gauge with Damascus barrels and that was at the Grand American in Vandelia years ago. I would have purchased it, but I was being chaparoned by my father and he was giving that eyes in the back of his head look.
Harry
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 01:23 am |
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Jerry, IF the barrels are servicable, meaning safely shootable, having been cut and pitted as you say, I would suggest no more than $1,000 and better if you can get them for $500.
oh, by the way, if you don't buy them I'd like a shot at them.
Good luck, Dean
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 01:41 pm |
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| Dean, I think the prices you quoted are on the low side and I would buy them at those prices no question as those are very rare barrels. I am not sure how many 28 ga damascus guns were made (don't have the TPS right now) but I think there were only 4 28 ga damascus DH guns made someone with the book will correct me. To the right guy cut or not they are worth a hell of lot more (to the right guy that is) Eric
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 01:48 pm |
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Jerry
I have been looking for a set of 28 ga Dam barrels for four years and this is the first set I have heard about. Buy them! I paid $2,000 for a set of 20ga CHE and $2700 for a set of 16ga DHE, both with for end and great bores. Their value depends on condition.
If you pass I would also like an opertunity to buy them and I will tell you I would pay over $1000!
David
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 11:18 pm |
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Jerry Mouer wrote: They have been cut from 28" down to 26 1/4". The outside is worn, but no rust or pitting, the bores are bright with some pitting in both bores.
Gents, this is what I based my valuation on - hardly pristine and open to having been honed too thin. To the shooter who has a gun with no barrels or totally junk barrels, this might be the set for him but certainly not a set of collector barrels unless someone wishes to fake them up with a different serial number.
At auction, I guess the sky's the limit but you would have to twist my arm pretty far to make me say uncle and overpay for this set.
Just my HO 
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Jerry Mouer
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Posted: Sun Apr 12th, 2009 01:41 pm |
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Update: I purchased the barrels and they have been fitted to #78700 (16 0 FR). I paid his asking price. Does anyone have a suggestion on where to send them to be honed and refinished?
The story is that they where sent to Belgium in 1962 and a set of steel barrels was fabricated for the gun ,20 ga. The total cost was $55.00 which included proofing and shipping. The gun is still here in Maryland.
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Posted: Sun Apr 12th, 2009 10:19 pm |
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| Now you're talking, Jerry.
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Sun Apr 12th, 2009 10:25 pm |
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Jerry Mouer wrote:
The story is that they where sent to Belgium in 1962 and a set of steel barrels was fabricated for the gun ,20 ga. The total cost was $55.00 which included proofing and shipping. The gun is still here in Maryland.
Jerry, did you know that before you agreed to buy the barrels? Is "The gun" in your posession or available to you?
Your above statement makes those barrels about 10X more desirable to someone.
And I've just gotta ask this one last question... If you know the gun is in Maryland why on earth did you have those barrels fitter to a different gun??
Last edited on Sun Apr 12th, 2009 10:32 pm by Dean Romig
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Jerry Mouer
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Posted: Mon Apr 13th, 2009 01:18 am |
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Bill, I'll call you tomorrow.
Dean, I got the story yesterday. What's done is done. You have to remember that was the 60's and he had a gun that he couldn't get shells for (small rim) and no one wanted to shoot a Damascus barreled gun. I can't count the number of Parkers that I turned down at dirt cheap prices because of Damascus barrels. I'll bet that anyone on this board over 60 years old will say the same, that was then, this is now.
Any leads/suggestions on honing and refinishing the barrels?
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Posted: Mon Apr 13th, 2009 02:42 am |
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I'll accept that answer Jerry (not that you need my acceptance at all) so here's a question for brother Murphy;
My 1908 DHE 28 ga. Damascus barrels (untouched in any way) accept modern 28 ga. shells with no problem with rim fit at all . . . why? Would some early 28 ga. Parkers rim recess be cut with one tool while others were cut with a different tool or to a different depth?
And yes, I'm over 60 and we were all told never to shoot guns with Damascus or twist barrels. That person probably bought the gun for $50 or less and immediately arranged for new fluid steel barrels. Who would blame him in those days?
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