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Brian Dillard
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 09:10 pm |
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=130198668
Here's one for the books! Look closely at the receiver... I think everything has been spray painted black. Now there's a great garage gunsmith at work.
And the asking bid it $1500? Why do so many sellers think just because it has Parker Bros on it that all buyers will line up and buy really bad workmanship?
Anyone have any other photo's of fine / high grade garage gunsmithing?
Last edited on Fri May 29th, 2009 09:16 pm by Brian Dillard
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 11:00 pm |
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| I'm not quite as negative on this gun as you are except for the price. I think these sellers should bite the bullet and trust the bidders to establish the value of the gun. I looked at a seller's sale record today and he had recently sold a GH for $200. If that gun had a reserve or a high starting price, he would still own it and ten months from now he would be selling it for $200. Last edited on Fri May 29th, 2009 11:23 pm by Bill Murphy
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Brian Dillard
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 11:11 pm |
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Bill Murphy wrote: I'm not quite as negative on this gun as you are except for the price. I think these sellers should bite the bullet and trust the bidders to establish the value of the gun.
You have a point on letting sellers set the prices. When guns go on these sites with "NO RESERVE" yet the sellers have set a fairly steep first bid price, I think that should be different. Definately these are not a "No Reserve" auction as there really is one.
I understand having a pre determined price and that's what a "Reserve" does, I just don't think all sellers understand or follow the process.
On that gun, I'm only negative because of what some people (not implying the seller) do to these great old guns. Especially doing things like spray painting, home re-checkering attempts, 5,6,7 coats of Linseed oil, hack sawing the barrels... Then you see the words "Expert Repairs".
Anyhow just my two cents...and that may be impaired by the 1/2 empty bottle of Blanton's Bourbon holding court with me.
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Chris Travinski
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 11:58 pm |
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| I think the reason they sell no reserve with a high opening bid is because it costs a lot less money for the listing. I have been to this guys shop, it's about 20 min. from my house. He seems to be a straight foreward honest guy. He'll tell you himself that he specializes in cheap fun, not collectables.
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Brian Davis
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Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 01:01 am |
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Looks like someone blued barrels and receiver. I agree with Bill, the price is what turns me off. I can reverse the colors on the gun, I like the stock, don't know if the barrels are original length but easy to find out. If he starts the auction No Reserve at $300 I will be asking him questions. At $1500 I quickly move on to the next auction.
I also agree that GB bidders will let you know what your gun is worth. That is, as long as you take good pictures. I have seen guns that I believe were a great deal but nobody bid on them because the pics were so bad. Here is one I sold recently:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=126034565
I got about $300 more that I thought I would get. I also sold a hammergun but the pics have been deleted already from GB. I sold it for $950 and it was just a basic low grade hammer gun in decent condition.
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Brian Dillard
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Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 01:03 am |
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| Chris, I'm sure he's an honest guy and I'm not saying he did the "repair work" on the gun. However, I still say it looks to have been spray painted and that many "garage gunsmith's" do some interesting things and still ask a pretty penny for something that has a Parker name but really no collectable value due to the "repairs" made.
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Brian Dillard
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Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 01:13 am |
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Brian Davis wrote: Looks like someone blued barrels and receiver.
Brian Davis, look again. I don't think it's blueing because of the fore arm. In the picture of the whole gun the metal on the fore arm that meets the receiver is black. Then look at the picture of the under side of the fore arm...see the difference. Then look at the safety...who / how does that get blue? Close up on the receiver is very interesting with blue / black over rust.
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Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 01:25 am |
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Brian,
Yeah, I see your point. Very well could be spray paint, barrels and all. I have a second set of barrels for my GH that are not original to the gun. Anyways, someone actually painted the forearm and barrels brown. Painted them brown !! But again, the price was right. They were thrown in for free. Brown paint, cut barrels and all ! And, you are correct Brian - there are alot of overpriced guns that have the name Parker on them.
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Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 01:35 am |
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Re the issue of letting buyers set the prices. I would have to agree. I see guns on GB that have a ludicrous reserve and they keep re appearing for a year or two with never a single bid. There's a 26" VHE12 on one site that has been for sale for 4 years. Used to be $2500. When that didn't work it went up as high as $5200 and is down to $3900 now I think. It looks like the frame has been colored with a torch after being bead blasted. Then he wants $500 for the $150 leather trunk case as an extra. Some sellers just never learn. There's few Parker hammer guns that have been on GB for at least a year with no bids. You'd think they'd figure it out.
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Tom Bria
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Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 01:43 pm |
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NO CA SALES
Seller is too dumb, lazy, or stubborn to deal with a simple shipping reg. I hope he owns this gun for a long, long, time.
Besides, it only has a 13" LOP.
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