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Dave Miles
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 Posted: Fri Sep 1st, 2006 02:04 pm

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A nice picture of Al's new gun. :D

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 Posted: Sun Sep 3rd, 2006 09:08 pm

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Austin, are the frames you mention, as initially milled, made just for lifter actions, and are they drilled just for 0 frame firing pin hole separation, or were they suitable to be adapted for different uses?   

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 Posted: Sun Sep 3rd, 2006 10:52 pm

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I shot 49,900,my straight grip O frame with cut outs top lever with 28" Twist barrels on Friday. It is marked "PT". 50 shots with Magtech brass cases, 2 1/2 drams of FFG 777 and 1 oz. of lead #8s. I didn't think it would blow up and it didn't. 12 doves taken with 48 of the shots.  It is my new best friend, gunwise. Choked .015/.017, it patterns the above load about a tight IC at 30 yds. A similar gun with a 26" barrels and a pistol grip went for $1687.99 this afternoon on Auction Arms. Luckily, I was outbid:) Personally, I see no reason for tubes if the barrels are serviceable as these guns are not lightweights despite Ev Harden's buddy's assessment. Good Luck with your new Parker.

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 Posted: Mon Sep 4th, 2006 12:01 am

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Bill; I have four lifter guns, serials in the 1000 to 22000 range, that are one frame guns, and the later guns do have a "1" stamped on the locking lug. All have the 1 1/16 " firing pin separation. Bill Zachow may have another with similar measurements. These guns weigh from a little under 6 3/4 pounds to 7 1/2 pounds. Although they are indeed one frame guns, the breech is filed to 2 1/16 inches plus or minus, as were zero frame hammer guns. One frames are generally filed to 2 1/4 inch across the breech.

When I posted this, I was thinking of the guns less than 12000 +/- of the first zero frames, as these guns approximate the width reduction necesary to make a 7 pound gun, that is a charcteristic of zero frame guns. The 22000 gun that I had not previously measured; indicates Parker was still filing one frames to zero frame dimensions after a hundred zero frames had been produced.

I think a question remains; did Parker tool up for the zero frame to accomodate 15 sixteen gauge sales a year? Did they attempt to make a light zero frame twelve? or did they anticipate that the evolution in powder production would soon make the sixteen popular?

Best, Austin


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