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Dean Romig
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Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2005 01:59 am |
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Another great issue of Parker Pages. Nice editing job Austin and thanks to all of the contributors of articles and stories. Very good reading.
Concerning the two articles listed in the Subject line... I have found but not yet bought an early GH 12ga No. 58xxx marked G on the water table in relatively good condition, i.e. no apparent abuse, no dents, no cracks or repair to the well-worn stock and forend. If the frame size were ever stamped on the barrel lug I certainly can't find it but I'm certain it is either a 1 1/2 or 2 frame. I beleive it is within a few hundred guns of the first hammarless G grade Parkers.
On the side panels is G grade engraving but the engraving more resembles hammer-type engraving in that there are no engraved ovals around the flying ducks on the left panel or the quail(?) on the right panel. It more appears to be a transition period design in terms of the layout of the engraving.
The Damascus pattern of the barrels has about two more blades than my 1893 GH 16ga in fact the comparison is very much like the comparisons illustrated on pgs. 22 & 23 of this issue. The barrels are uncut at 28" and are dent-free and show no signs of pitting. It is not especially loose but has certainly had a lot of use. I asked if I could take it down to examine it more closely and upon doing so found all three major parts had correct serial numbers. DHBP and grip cap are only a bit worn and in surprisingly good shape -maybe original or may have been replaced way back in the gun's youth.
Anyway, what do you (all) think? Worth the investment at $895. Is it as I think, a sort of transition Parker? or are there a lot of these floating around out there?
Best, Dean
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Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2005 02:38 am |
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I just happened to be looking at the Parkers on Jim Thynne's site "Ivory Beads" and found #1798 to be a similar G grade Parker. It, however looks like it is on a #1 frame and the engraving on the side panels looks more like embellished P grade engraving.
I guess it just goes to show that engraving standards were pretty flexible in the early days.
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John Hickerson
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Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2005 02:03 pm |
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Dean,
I have a GH in about the same condition you describe. Mine in in the99XXX serial number. I paid about the same price and my only regret is that now, since it seems to be in original , but well used , is whether to have the barrels redone by Oscar, the stock and forend recheckered and refinished and have case coloring redone.
Obviously I would never get my investment back but would have a real gem. The gun fits me perfectly. When I got it home I discovered it even had 3/8 inch cast on and shoot left handed What a stroke of luck? IT weighs eight pounds, 14 inch LOP, 1 5/8 inch drop at comb and 29 1/2 inch uncut barrels. I have never had it checked but seller stated it was choked Cylinder in the right and imp mod in the left barrel.
For me it is what I would order for ducks over decoys.
Hick
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2005 02:17 pm |
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Hello Dean. I have a 12 ga GH, 1frame, 30" barrels. The Damascus barrels are thick and have an unstruck weight of 4lbs 8 oz, so they are very stout . The sn is around 63,??? and made around 1894?. I paid Ed Muderlak $900 a year ago for it, so the cost is not out of line. Others I have seen, the sellers ask for more. Mine was one of his benchmark guns and is good original condition with moderate wear. I don't think it has ever been apart. That may help in your decision.
Bruce
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I have a very early quality 2 Parker Bros. hammerless, serial number 56,213. It started life as a 2-frame 12-gauge, but is stamped with a grade letter E below the serial number. This gun also has the engraving with no ovals around the birds. This is the gun that was later fitted with a set of 32-inch Vulcan barrels in 3-inch 20-gauge.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2005 12:59 am |
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Thanks for the kind words about Parker Pages. I have a gap in G grades between 25 and 73000; my 25000 has no oval, but 73000 of course does.
I have been examining guns made around the transition from lifter to T/A (~25000) and T/A to hammerless (~56000) . My survey is small so far, but G grades seem to have more and higher quality engraving around the demise of the lifter, and I find that there are some extremely handsome D's around the beginning of the hammerless.
If you do come home with that G , "first G with engraving enclosed in oval" seems to be a good category for "Parkers Found" - send it in.
Best, Austin
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Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2005 01:32 am |
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Thanks for your replies and interest. That engraving around the screwheads, almost like a sunburst, more remeniscent of the P grade style that I have seen in pictures posted here and elsewhere on the internet does not appear on the GH I was looking at and, as well, lacked the characteristic ovals engraved around the birds of the later G grades.
Hmmm... still trying to decide, knowing that if I wait too long it will be gone.
Thanks, Dean
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