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Danny McHugh
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 Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 11:10 pm

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Pretty Sad!

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=9160184



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Too bad.  What use is there for just the frame?  Maybe encased in clear acrylic as a paper weight??  The guts would be useful for other projects but why would someone start a project with just the frame?  All useful project parts are gone it looks.  Let's see, I have a frame and all I need is every other part (expensive) to make a very limited value mis-matched shooter.  Am I missing something?? :?



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Thanks! This is really a good start for me. If I can find enough of these lower grade frames I will finally have enough weight for the mooring for my new boat...

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How about a Parker wind chime...or a mobil to hang over your newborn's crib?

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Thanks! This is really a good start for me. If I can find enough of these lower grade frames I will finally have enough weight for the mooring for my new boat...
Don't pay full list.  Surely any offer will be acceptable.


How about a Parker wind chime...or a mobil to hang over your newborn's crib?
I'll donate high tensile aircraft cable for the mobile and an infant sized helmet.  For the wind chime I can donate about 12 inches of catastrophically failed barrels to the mix.



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Perfect Jim! A wind chime. What better use for such iron?

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 Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 01:10 pm

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I doubt that those receivers will "Ring".  I have used a 5E Ithaca single barrel receiver as a desktop paperweight for years.  However, it has some nice inlays that give it a bit of character.   

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Bill:  More of a clunk/thunk than chime but add that 12 inches of blown barrel to the mix we could have a noise maker.  I wonder if those guns could have been restored rather than reduced to parts.  I guess if that doesn't happen from time to time I'll never come up with a sear spring or top lever spring. Cheers, Jack



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 Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 04:00 pm

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Take the joint roll out and they become a "tuning fork" with a little more work.

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Harry:  On the serious side for a moment, have you removed a joint roll and re-inserted one?  Is it possible to do in the home workshop?  And how so??
Jack

BTW:  Nice Gordon setter (I think) avatar.

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What is really sad is that Danny noticed something of interest and Parker connected on Auction Arms & posted it. All he got for his trouble is a lot of grief. Someone who has a Parker with a cracked or badly worn frame might just welcome the information.

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The voice of reason George.  I don't think anyone intended any grief toward Danny.  You have answered my initial question though and thanks for that.  I have seen some badly worn frames but never a cracked one.  What would it take to cause a crack?  Is there a location prone to cracking i.e. if the frame cracks it is highly probable it would be near a certain spot?
Every time I read your signature line quote, it seems that bell gets clearer and not so distant anymore.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 07:01 pm

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I have only seen two cracked frames...an Ithaca Flues and a Fox.



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I was thinking the same thing as George.  I know person with a 16ga VH 1 frame and the frame is warped (from a recase).  A person in such a situation might indeed welcome the chance to pick up a frame that might possibly be made to fit  The old adage is true one man's garbage is another man's treasure.

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I had a frame off a G hammerless that was badly cracked at juncture of flats and breech. Looked more like a tear as there was considerable ragged edges and a 1/8 th inch :)opening. Seller had no idea of how it happened or where the rest of the gun was.

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Robert Delk wrote:  Seller had no idea of how it happened or where the rest of the gun was.

I'm sure it wouldn't matter. With that kind of damage I'm pretty sure the barrels would be junk and the stock likely broken. It takes one awful impact to fracture a frame like you describe.

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Jack,

I'm fortunate to have a sizeble press in my shop that I use to press them out when I'm doing a deep clean.  I suppose one could make a tight fitting punch and drive it out in a vise.  I like the press as it imparts less shock.  I then hold the pin in a vise and turn the screw all the way in and make an index mark on the pin side with a sharpie for alignment during re-assembly. 

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What I like is the statement that "we will not be responsible for any damage in Shipping." As we all know the shipper is responsible for safe delivery and the recipient has no recourse unless he arranges for complex insurance in advance. David

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 Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 12:21 am

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I bid $42.50 and it was accepted.  I intend on giving them to Parker Friends as paperweights for their office or desk.  The seller however has not responded to where or how to pay for them.  Who knows the Parker engraving is worth the $10.63 each.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 02:35 am

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George Lander wrote: What is really sad is that Danny noticed something of interest and Parker connected on Auction Arms & posted it. All he got for his trouble is a lot of grief. Someone who has a Parker with a cracked or badly worn frame might just welcome the information.

Just My Humble Opinion......George


Now hang on a minute there, George. I have to disagree with anyone giving Danny any grief. I think we were all echoing his own sentiment: quote - "Pretty Sad!" At least that's how I took it. For my part, I was agreeing with him. I mean, he titled the thread "Elephant Graveyard," after all.

Jim

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