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Don Kaas
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 02:25 pm |
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Here is a picture of a 16g T0 0 frame top lever I recently picked up on Auction Arms. i have a very similar gun with the same feature. As I mentioned in a previous post, I looked at a D2 #48,795 yesterday with the milled watertable. Certainly, this is the one of the most attractive features of these little guns. Brad Steinfeld has a similar gun 16g T0 toplever at Russ Bickels for repair that I saw a few weeks ago. It is in a similar serial # range (if I recall correctly) but I was surprised to see it did not have a milled watertable. As with so many things Meriden, I wonder why? Attached Image (viewed 488 times):
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 02:26 pm |
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Dave Miles
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 04:23 pm |
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Here's a picture of another one. 0 frame, 16 gauge, top lever.
On the erlier ones, that don't have the 3rd lug for the check hook, there isn't a pin in the receiver. So the milled areas are one long groove. If you'll notice where the pin goes through the receiver, they skip the milling. I'll try to post a picture tonignt.
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 05:22 pm |
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| My 27" 16, #172,662 has the mill cuts, but #54,369 does not. #54,369 is on a stock book page with a whole flock of other top action 16s, maybe all of which were made without mill cuts, I don't know. That big 30" zero frame top action was posted in the stock book at 7 pounds 3 ounces, so was never meant to be a lightweight. The Parker blueprints of the 1/2 frame called for mill cuts but I've never seen a 1/2 frame with the cuts.
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 11:12 pm |
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| Here's one from14290 16ga lifter that doesn't have the pin in the frame. Attached Image (viewed 406 times):
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 02:46 am |
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These are all 16 ga guns. Any other Parker gauges done with milled water table?
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 01:27 pm |
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I am still learning the basics here. Was the milled water table to reduce weight?
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 08:19 pm |
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| I think milled out water tables are seen on 0 frame hammer guns, 000 frame and 00 frame hammerless guns. 000 and 00 frames were both made in 28 gauge and .410 bore. I am waiting for someone to come forward with an early 20 or 28 gauge 0 frame hammerless gun and a Remington era 1/2 frame with milled out water tables, but I don't know of one so far. Anyone else? Last edited on Sat Jun 6th, 2009 08:20 pm by Bill Murphy
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 09:12 pm |
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| Here's another 16g on a 0 frame. Attached Image (viewed 318 times):
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Dave Miles
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 10:12 pm |
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| Here's an early 16 gauge, 0 frame. Doesn't have the pin for the check hook. Attached Image (viewed 308 times):
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 10:13 pm |
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 12:57 am |
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| Here's my first, 74443. Attached Image (viewed 247 times):
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 01:01 am |
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| Here's my second, 74625, possibly unfired. Attached Image (viewed 247 times):
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 01:06 am |
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| Here's my third... picked up yesterday at Hausman's, 74446. Attached Image (viewed 244 times):
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 01:35 am |
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Dean,
Dont do that to us. Tell us about her. She looks like a nice one.
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 02:42 am |
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On page 268 of The Parker Story in the Tables for "Grade 1 Top-Action Hammer Guns With Laminated Steel Barrels" this gun is shown as the only known sixteen gauge with 26" barrels and according to the PGCA research letter on this gun it came from "that dusty little plant down in Meriden" with 26" barrels.
But I can't mislead you on this gun - it had been fired with shells that were too long or too strong (or both) and the gun needs some very extensive work to make it into the collector/shooter I wish it to be. Both barrels right at the front of the chambers/start of the cones have very minor circumferencial bulges and the brazed joints of the lug to barrels have seperated. It is so minor that neither the seller nor myself had noticed it at all. I will have it properly repaired and the work will be done by an expert like Kirk Merrington at whatever expense is necessary.
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 12:49 pm |
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That's a shame, Dean. So much for happy endings...
Here is a late (1900) #1 frame 16g T1 without a milled watertable for reference for those unfamilar with Parker hammerguns...
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Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 10:01 am |
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| Dave, what grade is your 13011?
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Dave Miles
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Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 10:17 am |
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Dean,
The letter says it's a 0 grade, however it has grade 1 engraving.
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Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 10:22 am |
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| I'm with you on that. Can you show us a side view?
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