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Wes W. Winget
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Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 09:26 pm |
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Howdy guys,
Just picked up my first Parker,bought it almost sight unseen. It turned out to be a 1904 Vh grade #2 frame with 30" Vulcan steel barrels and a round pistol grip. To my surprise it is on face and very little to no pitting in the barrles. Seems to be almost 100% orginal except the butt plate is missing. The seller failed to mention the left barrel as a small dent and the right barrel has to small bulges!!!! I know the dent can be fixed, can the bulges be fixed well enough to become a everyday shooter with light PSI 2/34 shells?
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Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 10:51 pm |
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| I had Kirk Merrington take care of my problems you speak of . You can see his info on the links of the home page.
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Wes W. Winget
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Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 11:10 pm |
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Thanks Steve!
I checked out Kirk's website,this will work out perfect since we both live in Texas.
Thanks again,Wes
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 11:25 am |
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Where are the bulges? I bought a set of pin gauges off Ebay and experimented on removing dents in an old Ithaca damascus bbl set and a minor bulge in a Parker near the muzzle, both of which worked quite well. There's a thread on the forum from last fall sometime where we discussed it. If you're not a practiced home gunsmith going to Kirk M would be the better option.
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Wes W. Winget
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 02:00 pm |
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The bulges are near the muzzle. The wall thickness is still over .050. My first thought was to send it to Briley then Kirk M. was reccomended,and thats were it will go.
Any pros or cons on lenghtening the chambers?
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 03:47 pm |
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Kirk over Briley 100 to 1. He will do it right, or let you know that it isn't repairable.
Lengthening chambers is a waste of time and money in my opinion. Sherman Bell's tests showed that lengthening the forcing cones actually did more to reduce pressure than lengthening the chambers. But if you use a load with an appropriate pressure for your gun in the first place, the slight increase in pressure caused by shooting a 2-3/4 in. shell in a 2-5/8 or 2-9/16 in. chamber (even with the short factory forcing cones) will not be significant-enough to be a safety issue. If you want you can read the tests in Sherman's "Finding Out For Myself" series in Double Gun Journal. If I was at home I'd tell you which issue, but I'm at work.
Jim
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 04:17 pm |
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In the mid 1970's with my old 16ga, I sent the gun back east to a well known gunsmith for a doubling problem and was told that the chambers needed to be lengthened 3/8" to make them safe for 2 3/4 shells and it would reduce felt recoil and dangerously high chamber pressures.
Well, I had only shot maybe 4-5 thousands rounds through it and of course wanted to make the old beater safe, so I said sure. Of course I didn't bother to check and discover that the 2 3/4 shells I had been using were really 2 5/8 when fired, or an 1/16" over the chamber length of 2 9/16, and I didn't know at the time that Parker made the chambers 1/8 short for better sealing. I hadn't read any of the Parker Pages, because they didn't exist, or Parker books and had not even heard of Johnson or Baer.
I couldn't tell a bit of difference in the recoil after the gun came back. The recoil was substantially less when the gun didn't double anymore.
That was 35 years ago. Now, we have all this information with the Parker Pages and our 15 year old organization, and excellent books including the best gun book ever, The Parker Story, and also the Double Gun Journal which for almost ten years now has had real tests and real data to disprove all the old wives tales.
Last edited on Sat May 30th, 2009 03:05 pm by Bruce Day
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Wes W. Winget
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 04:53 pm |
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A couple of years back, I tore the rotar cuff completely off in my right shoulder. After having it fixed, not wanting to give up my shotgun or rifle shooting. A search begain to find the lightist PSI shotgun shell. What was found is a load that has only 5800 psi. I shoot it in all my modern shotguns and feel like it will preform well in the Parker also.
With all this said,I will take Kirk M.'s recommendations and let him repair the Parker as he see's fit.
Thank all of y'all for your help.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 05:24 pm |
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| Load 7/8oz with about 1125fps 12ga in a 7 1/2 lb gun. You can hold it to your nose and pull the trigger. Last edited on Fri May 29th, 2009 08:16 pm by Bruce Day
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 05:59 pm |
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Bruce, I'm with you on the 7/8oz 12 gage loads. I feel I get a lot less recoil and better patterns especially in tightly choked guns. When we shoot sporting clays at the club guys ask what I am shooting and you should see the looks you get when you tell them you’re only using 7/8oz loads. Of course these guys are part of the (to quote Bart Bishop from an earlier post) spray and pray with open chokes crowd who if they could manage would shoot 1 1/2oz loads.
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 06:36 pm |
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| I now reload all 7/8 loads and continue to be amazed . They seem to breat things better than the heavier loads and no recoil.
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Bruce Day
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| Kind of fun to pick off only the front end of the clay pigeon, isn't it? I bought a couple bags of shot the other day, back up to $34 and I was told that Hodgdon powders, Clay, Int'l and Universal, were unavailable with all the pistol people hoarding rounds, so a light load as above helps conserve and if a person has a shoulder problem, its a big help. I loaded several cases for a buddy who separated his shoulder, and it saved him. I've been using a Clays load at 1200fps, just reduce the load from 1oz to 7/8oz and it picks up the speed some, reduces recoil and still has enough pressure to burn clean. Last edited on Fri May 29th, 2009 08:29 pm by Bruce Day
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 09:09 pm |
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| The load I found after many,many hours of research to find a load that would not tear apart the shoulder the surgeon spent 3 1/2 hours fixing is: 24 grains of IMR 800X powder,CCI 209 primer,windjammer wad,1 1/8 of shot in a AA Winchester hull. This recipe gives you 1200 fps with only 5800 PSI.
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 09:10 pm |
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I use a 24gram 12ga load at 1150fps that is only 4200psi and shoots like a .410 and seems to break clays as well as 1 oz+. Burns clean enough in warm weather, not so clean in cold. Sure am glad I bought 50+ lbs of shotgun powder a couple of yrs ago.
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