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Mike Poindexter
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 02:22 am |
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| A friend of a friend is taking a 3 year assignment overseas and will sell his house in the States. I am told he has about 100 guns in his collection. My sense is he is not a side by side guy, not that it matters. He does not want to sell his collection. I don't have any good ideas about what to advise him (other than the impertinent standard "Just give them to me--I'll see they get a good home.") Seriously, anybody who took the guns for him would want them insured. If this was jewelry, he could rent a large safe deposit box. If this was the "Terminator", he could bury them in the desert. What would be nice is if there were a "safe deposit" facility for large valuables like guns. I am out of ideas. Anybody ever face a similar situation? All help appreciated.
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 02:31 am |
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| I have no idea if this is done but possibly one or more of the more reputable dealers like Jack Puglisi, Ivory Beads, Cobb or Barnett may offer secure storage at a fee.
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Timothy Sheldon
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 02:38 am |
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My only thought would be to make a deal with an establised dealer (trusted), which does sound like an oxymoran, but none the less, rent the secure space from him. Make sure the agreement is written up and signed (laywers and all). Cover what happens in events unseen, etc. Make sure his insurance will cover the value of your collection and make him give you a copy of his policy limits. Good luck, I hope things work out for you.
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Mike Poindexter
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 02:49 am |
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| Thanks Dean. I had actually thought about that. The guy in question is down in Herschel Chadick's area, but from what I've heard, the Chadick operation is considerably downsized. If Puglisi's or Ivory Beads would cut him a deal, it might be worth the drive. I'd probably recommend double insurance coverage, one policy issued to the owner and separate coverage for the storage establishment. Probably have to get it through Lloyds, if anybody would write it.
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Tom Bria
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 02:52 am |
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I know that Ivory Beads is space constrained.
One possibility would be a high end facility for wine storage. Lockers are available in various sizes, the facilities are controlled for temerature and humidity, and the good ones are usually pretty secure. For a three year rental, the operators would probably allow you to build temporary shelving or racks for the guns. Many of the facilities have shelving for cases of wine, but they are seldom racked for individual bottle storage so you might not need to remove existing structure. Temps in the building will be a constant 56-58F, and humidity will be high enough to keep the wood from shrinking (because they can't afford to have the corks shrink). Make a complete inventory with lots of photos, buy a comprehensive insurance policy from a company like Chubb, and go. Some of those wine bottles are worth more than our guns.
Edit: Could skip the racks and just move safes into the locker. All concrete floors, even in multi-story structures.
Last edited on Mon May 11th, 2009 02:55 am by Tom Bria
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Buddy Marson
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 12:23 pm |
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Griffin & Howe has a gun storage service. You can contact Paul Chapman for details.
(908) 766-2287
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Bob Brown
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 12:56 pm |
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| You might want to contact some of the auction houses that deal in firearms. They would have the insurance in place for third party storage and secure facilities.
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David Hamilton
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 01:13 pm |
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| This is a good topic. Storage companies are notorious for breakage and pilfering. I have seen storage vaults in NYC that were used for valuable art that looked safe. I would not store guns in NYC but there must be other places which rent safe vaults. Pay the rent in advance and give several contact names in case they need to reach someone. The storage co. does not need to know what one is storing in a vault as long as it is not inflammable. Ammunition might not be permissible. Griffin & Howe sounds good.
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 01:44 pm |
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Some old and established banks do have vault facilites that would accomodate larger items like guns. I bought a few Becker guns that had been in storage for many years in the Wilmington Trust Co. I would suspect Denver would have such a bank.Most large cities have bonded and insured high end facilites for storage of such items as paintings and antiques. The last place I would store my guns would be at a gun dealer... Last edited on Mon May 11th, 2009 01:45 pm by Don Kaas
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John Dallas
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 02:38 pm |
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Years ago, a friend stored his guns in a storage company with no problems except for the fact that the silicon-impregnated paper which he wrapped around the guns screwed up the stock finish on several guns.
BTW, Wilmington Trust manages some of my meager stash of funds. Hope your guns are faring better than my investments at W/T.
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Brian Stucker
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 05:22 pm |
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Last edited on Mon May 11th, 2009 05:24 pm by Brian Stucker
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 05:23 pm |
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| I'd try and cut a deal with the Amish...they're always home. Bet they don't get robbed. Last edited on Mon May 11th, 2009 05:25 pm by Brian Stucker
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Harry Collins
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Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 03:29 pm |
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When I was still sailing I would take my guns to the bank in October and collect them when I signed off in June or July. That was over 25 years ago and the manager was a hunter. None of the "political correct" rot to stumble over...
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