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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 02:48 am |
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| I have a Parker GH Grade 2 that I inherited from my father. He occassionally had trouble with the forearm coming off after fireing the gun. I just got it back from a local gunsmith, but he was not able to repair the problem. It appears that when the forearm is removed one of the "devices" (for lack of proper terminology on my part) the cocks the fireing pin when the breach is closed does not hold in place properly. I wonder if a spring or piece is missing. Do anyone have a schematic the includes all the parts and assembly of the forearm. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Lon E. Morris
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 03:31 am |
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I had a Parker Repro, that the forearm would fall off after every shot. The problem was that some well meaning "gunsmith" had filed on the forend lug until it did not have enough bearing surface to hold the forend on while the gun was recoiling.
I don't know if this is relevant or not! Lon
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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 12:07 pm |
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There is a small latch/trigger that holds each curved metal piece on the forearm that cocks the firing pin when the breach is closed. One latch works, but the other has to be manually pushed down while pusing the curved piece into place to hold it there so the forearm can be put back on. Is there a small spring that keeps pressure on this latch that might be missing? Sorry that I don't have better mechanical terminology, but I'm a veterinarian, not a gunsmith Does anyone know where I can find a picture or PDF of all the parts of the forearm of a Parker?
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Ben Yarian
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 12:29 pm |
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Go to the home page. there is a break down of the parker parts. It may help you identify the part you are discribing.
Ben
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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 01:26 am |
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| I think the part I was talking about is actually one of the spring loaded pieces that operate the ejectors (extractor) this gun has. One of them will stay cocked when the forearm is removed (like it is suppose to) but the other will immediately push towards the breach when the forearm is removed. There is a small latch that is suppose to hold the ejector trigger in place that aparantly is not catching on the spring loaded device that actually pushes on the ejectors. They are very strong and I think when that latch does not catch on the device that works the ejector, it actually pushes the forearm loose. Is there a view somewhere of the forearm from the side with all the parts more spread out? Thanks......
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Bill Bolyard
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 01:30 am |
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Had the same problem with my DHE. Sent it to Larry Delgreco problem solved.
Bill
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 01:33 am |
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| Even with a malfunctioning ejector hammer (doing exactly as you describe) the forend will (should) still remain mounted to the gun. I think you have more than one problem there. The offending ejector hammer may have a broken cocking tab or may simply need to be cleaned. The forend falling off with every shot is definitely a latch/lug problem that needs an expert Parker smith like Del Grego. In fact, both problems likely require the attention of a Parker expert.
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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 01:35 am |
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| Bill, do you know what or how he fixed it? We have some really good gunsmiths locally, but no real experts on the workings of these classic guns. I would rather not ship it unless I absolutely have to. It's going to spend most of the rest of its' life safely stored away and I would hate for something to happen during shipping to the only real family heirloom I have from my dad. Thanks......
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 01:37 am |
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Anthony, just drive it over there yourself. He's right in Ilion NY
He has been known to fix these things while you wait.
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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 01:42 am |
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| I just had the forearm cleaned and triggers. It may be a broken cocking tab like you have suggested. It does not fall off with every shot, but will occasionally come off. I remember my dad putting electrical tape around it as a kid to hold it on. The ejectors work great now, which is the first time I can ever remember them working. It sounds like I may have to send it off as everyone is suggesting. I am going to take it out in the next week or two and shoot a round of sporting clays and see how it works. Is there a spring that holds or pushes on the cocking tab. If I manually push the ejector back and push the cocking tab in place it will hold it there and allow me to replace the forearm.
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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 01:46 am |
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| It sounds like I may have to do that. I have an uncle (my dads brother) that lives near that area of NY. I'd like to get some family history about this gun and a few others that were handed down to me. Do you have phone number or address for me to contact him? Thanks...
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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Fri May 1st, 2009 07:24 pm |
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| For anyone still paying attention to this thread, I took the forearm and used a synthetic gun spray cleaner on all the metal and the gun works great now. I shot a round of sporting clays the other night without the forearm falling off. When I removed the forearm the ejector trigger stayed cocked. The forearm lug/latch seems to really have a nice "snap" to it when it is closed. Maybe you were right and a good ol' cleaning was all it needed. Thanks for all the ideas.
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Chuck Bishop
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Posted: Fri May 1st, 2009 10:55 pm |
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Anthony,
Stop by the Central Pa SxS shoot May 16th in Harrisburg, exit 80 on I-81. Dewey Vicknair, who is an excellent vintage SxS gunsmith, should be there plus many knowledgeable Parker people who should be able to tell if your Parker is working properly. See the tread titled Central Pa SxS shoot on this forum for info.
P.S. sounds like from your description you have a GHE (E for ejector) not a GH. What's the full serial number?
Last edited on Fri May 1st, 2009 10:57 pm by Chuck Bishop
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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Sat May 2nd, 2009 01:15 am |
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| Thanks for the invite and info Chuck. The full serial number of my Parker is 226107. Do I need to pre-register if I attend the shoot in Harrisburg? I just got into clays 2 years ago, so I am not an expert clay shooter by any stretch (I can make a fool out of myself in other ways without trying!). I shot the Parker for a round of 5 stand this past Wednesday and did not have nearly the scores I usally do with my o/u sporting gun. But hey, that's the novelty of the gun. The birds I did hit were smashed...nothing like a tight choke. It took me a station or two to get use to putting the safety off after every reload and moving to that second trigger on the second bird. Had a sore neck after just one round, so if I come I'll bring a recoil pad, unless that is considerd being a "wuss"! I'm probably only an hour drive away, so I may try to make it. What time do most of the regulars show up?
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Chuck Bishop
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Posted: Sat May 2nd, 2009 11:40 am |
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Anthony,
Please recheck your serial number, the one you posted shows up as a SC single barrel trap gun.
As far as the Central Pa SxS shoot, trust me, you would fit right in. It's not a competition shoot, just a fun shoot. No registration required, just show up!
Here are links for information
http://www.blueridgesportingclays.com/ ../forum1/6334.html ../forum2/6323.html
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Anthony Potorti
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Posted: Sat May 2nd, 2009 11:09 pm |
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Thanks Chuck. I can't read my own writing....the number is 226103. The barrel is marked Parker Spec. Steel. I had to take the forearm off to double check it and I'm having trouble getting it back on now . The ejector triggers are in the correct position (cocked), but it appears the hardware on the rear of the forearm is catching on something on the front of the fore end iron. I have contacted another shooter from our area who attends the Harrisburg SxS shoot. He also said it is a really nice event. My wife has some other plans for the day, but I'm going to try to work around them. Wish me luck...........
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