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Steve Kleist
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 06:34 pm |
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I'm curious. Just what does it take to make the perfect Parker shotgun. Age, gauge, chokes, chambers, triggers, stock, forend, hammers, grade, original or repro????
If you could create the perfect Parker, what would it look like? This might be an interesting string. Steve Kleist Ely, MN
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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 06:46 pm |
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My first choice would be:
DHE #3 frame, 34 inch barrels, straight grip, 12 gauge, 3 inch chambers, splinter forend, Silver pad. I actually know where this gun is, I've just not had any success in buying it.
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DHE #4 frame, 36 inch barrels, straight grip, 10 gauge, 3 1/2 inch chambers, splinter forend, Silvers pad.
I've got one that's close, but still not the exact one I've always dreamed of.
DLH
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 07:00 pm |
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DHE 20 ga 34" 3" chambers. 8 1/2 pounds no safety pistol grip beavertail fe or
D grade top lever #2 frame 12ga 34" straight grip splinter 8 pounds 10 oz
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 07:01 pm |
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| In my case, it's always a gun for which I have either the front half or the back half and the other half is missing. Well, not always. Sometimes its a gun that has been held hostage by "the perfect gunsmith" for more than a year. Gauge or barrel length doesn't seem to matter.
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 07:32 pm |
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Oh come on Murphy, I know you've got some bizarre configuration you'd like to own.
My other one would be a 16 gauge, #2 frame, 32 inches, 3 inch chambers, with straight stock and splinter. This gun probably exists, I actually think I heard of one once.
The 10 gauge I want may not.......
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 07:37 pm |
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| 32" AA Whitworth 12 gauge toplever..."The Parker Pigeon Gun" straight grip, skeleton buttplate.
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 07:44 pm |
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Steve, the perfect Parker is the one that shoots best for you for the game , you like to look at, and you treasure.
Ice gone yet? I was going to get out in Boundary Waters in June, but I'm biking across Kansas now in early June, taking a crew to Philmont in July and so my summer is filling fast.
But a few of us, me, Charlie Herzog, Carl Beers, Greg Dershem, we are planning on the Puglisi Shoot in Duluth at the end of July again. Hope to see you there and bring your perfect Parker. Maybe we can get a good group of Parker shooters?
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 08:05 pm |
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Its always the one somebody else owns  Seriously though...Its the one I shoot the best.... on any given day that changes 
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 08:51 pm |
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Don, you have it exactly right. The AA hammer guns are the best. The only thing I would add is a two barrel set, both 32" with one set open chokes. That gun would cost $600 in 1900.
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Bill Bolyard
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 09:18 pm |
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My perfect Parker? Thats like saying what do you like Blonds, Bruenetts or Redheads! I will tell you that I have a Friend with a 16ga underlifter hammergun that is in original like new condition, that is begging to come home with me. We met at pheasant fest, but alas the owner does not appreciate our relationship. As a matter of fact he forbide me from fondling the girl, and refuses to let me see her again. My heart is broken.
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 09:53 pm |
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| My old VH 32" #2 frame 20 with ball grip and dog's head butt slipped away about 20 years ago. That was pretty nearly the perfect gun. It's serial number is 153,333 in case anyone knows where it is. I would like to once again own "The Perfect Parker". I sold it to the late Curt Nace from New Jersey but I have no idea what he did with it. Another "Perfect Parker" would be a large frame 12 gauge top action with 32" fluid steel barrels. How about a #4 frame B Grade with special order 12 gauge Whitworth Steel 32" barrels, flat pigeon rib, top action hammer gun, real ball grip. The only addition I could make to such a gun would be an extra set of 34" barrels, but I want to be reasonable here. Forget the 34" barrels. However, having reread the original post, I realize I will need checkered triggers, checkered deeply enough to feel the checkering, chambered 2 7/8" for 3" shells. Chokes about .047 because I have determined the old fashioned way that tighter patterns with lead shot do not end at .038. I think that will be all. Please confirm order by electronic means. wilmrph@verizon.net Last edited on Wed Apr 15th, 2009 10:02 pm by Bill Murphy
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 10:12 pm |
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Sadly I just sold my perfect format Parker, a 26" bbl, IC/M, double trigger, 2 9/16" chambered, 1 frame 16 VHE in 98% condition, to be perfect it would have had all of those attributes and be a CH grade.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 03:18 am |
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A BH or BHE, engraved by William Gough, with straight grip, splinter forend "checked all over", skeleton steel butt plate, two barrel set, 28" each set - one set choked open and improved for early season grouse and woodcock and the other set choked improved cylinder and tight mod for late season birds. It should be light enough that I can carry it all day and still not feel it cumbersome to swing on a fast-crossing grouse in the thick stuff. I prefer a sixteen or a twenty-eight bore, have no use for a twenty (sorry, that's just me) and would accept a six-and-a-half pound twelve bore. Damascus or Bernard would be my first choice but would settle for fluid steel I suppose. It should be in very high original condition with lots of case color and high black and white barrel definition. A pair of age-yellowed ivory beads would look nice on such a Parker and might even help me shoot a little better. LOP should be 14 1/4" and DAH should be somewhere between 2 1/2" - 3" as it doesn't matter much to me.
And as long as I'm daydreaming, I would hope for a few more decades of good health in which to wander the hills and dales with it and the occasional plump lump in my game pocket 
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RICHARD L ANDERSON
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 11:13 am |
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Better health come on Dean how can we pick your Parker bones if you last that long . Actually I thought you were going to say improved shooting skills.
I almost have my perfect Parker. A 16ga straight stock, BTF 2 bbl set. Both sets are 28 inches vent rib and choked skt/skt & M/F. You understand once this gun comes back home it will be no longer the Perfect Parker as that is the gun you don't have.
My long time wish is for a VHE 410 skeet gun.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 12:08 pm |
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| Rich, your wish is not hard to fulfill. At any given time, there is usually one of those little pillpoppers for sale somewhere.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 12:42 pm |
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| Here's mine for ducks and long range pheasant, or when the weather is cold and nasty , a damascus GHE at 7 1/2 lbs, tight chokes. I couldn't ask for anything better. Likely lots of people have one of these and they are not very costly. Attached Image (viewed 305 times):
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 12:45 pm |
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And for upland game, a light 12ga Late Rem Parker C. So I have what I need and am not looking.
Now if it only had screw in chokes.Attached Image (viewed 304 times):
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Steve Kleist
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 01:39 pm |
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Bruce,
I think you are making fun of me. It is OK, we are friends. I thought I was the only guy who has screw in chokes in a Parker. Mine by choice. My Repro Magnum was chosen so I could shoot steel and have one gun that could do it all....from Station 8's to late season canvasbacks. Not many of those out there so I jumped at the chance when it showed up.
While I am here.... 12 ga three inch, straight grip, beavertail, double triggers, two ivory beads, a little cast off, and plenty of wear from many days afield. My bucket list is to wear that gun out. My legacy to kids and grandkids will be adventures with it rather than preserved hardware.
Thank you all for your "Perfect Parker" composites. Steve Kleist, Ely
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 01:50 pm |
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Steve not at all. I like screw in chokes, I truly do. They make a gun adaptable and I think that Repro with screw in chokes is a great idea. I've never been able to find one. They make a factory Repro with screw in chokes, and I don't remember what its called.
I have a Mod 21 with Briley hidden screw in chokes. I love them. I know some people get all bent out of shape about them, but not me. I have a Parker with cut barrels and every once in a while I toy with the idea of putting hidden Brileys in it. I have a couple friends with screw ins in Parkers. No I think they are one of the great modern firearms inventions and you won't hear anything bad about them from me.
I would have liked them to be used in the days when Parker was making guns but they weren't and that's the only reason I wouldn't put them in an original Parker, but I would in a cut barrel gun.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 03:28 pm |
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| My interest is similar to Dean's; and, the one I have fills the bill. It is a BHE with 30" 12ga Acme barrels choked .025, .035. Originally it was a BH with 30" damascus barrels (I don't have them). It's six pounds, 13 ounces on a #1 frame. The barrel-ejector conversion was probably made in Meriden in 1933 as the flats are stamped "Parker Gun Works, Overload Proved" and there is only one set of repair codes on the watertable. I like to think that the art work was done by Mr. Gough; though I have been unable to find his initials, it was done during his tenure. DAH is 2&1/4" and LOP is 14&5/8". There is no external color or blue on the trigger guard or BP, however the engraving is crisp and hard. The forend is fully checked. Here's a less than perfect image. Attached Image (viewed 268 times):
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