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 Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 09:26 pm

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my 1897 aah was converted to single trigger...i can find no record of when........my question is  when was the single trigger offered and what can anyone tell me about the probable process at the time, many thanks  bob schiffer

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Lets see some pics!

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First question would be is it even a Parker single trigger? There were lots of different ones on the market at various times.


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 Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 10:33 pm

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gill-i sorry to say that i have to figure out how to do it..sooooon...bob



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destry- i can see no markings on the trigger assembly...it has a rocker assembly (to pick first barrel) then a very small tab (i assume to hold the selection in place)..i havent shot the gun since the 70's and never moved the selector when i did. a 9/16 extension was added to the stock (i assume to keep the pull at 14 in. to the new single trigger)..bob



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I have usually left the select switch as set. I had a single trigger which doubled, and I reversed the order; It doubled less, but it made three over winter stays in a first rate shop to get it back to being fully functional.

It is a major, and sometimes un doable job to replace a single trigger. Sears and other parts may have to be changed as well. Some single triggers are welded in place and may require a new floorplate.

I have a tendency to flinch single triggers that are in the rear position. That may be why an earlier owner stretched the stock. A trigger shoe, as used on M52 and M40x target rifles may effectively move the trigger forward 1/4 inch, but avoid wide ones that may snag.

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Austin's trigger shoe idea is one I have used.  After suffering through a doubling single trigger, I had the sears heavied up until it wouldn't double.  The trigger pull was inconveniently heavy, so I installed a wide trigger shoe which made the heavier pull much less noticable.  It's been on there for several years now. 

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To partially answer your question, a double trigger Parker could have been sent back to Parker to convert the gun to a single selective Parker trigger(1917 Lefler patent) sometime after 1920. However Parker sent new guns out to single trigger makers (like Infallible) in the early 1900s. A Parker single trigger would have a fore and aft sliding selector "button" rather than a "rocker". The rocker selector set in front of and at right angles to the trigger blade is typical of a later style Miller trigger.

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don-thank you, i looked in the parker book and could only see the selector on the later guns (1920's- 30) and i do not have the slider...i tried to google the infallible trigger co, and miller...no pictures or schematics...i will keep trying- any suggestions from anyone would be appreciated...bob



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Here is a pic of a 12 ga VH Infallible with the rear position trigger.  Selector is on the top tang, left side of the lever.  LOP problem solved with a Silvers repro pad.
I don't have the gun or its S/N handy, but I thinks it's around 1908.


 

 

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my selector is underneath and runs along side the trigger assembly...bob



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Bob,

If you'd just post a picture of the trigger I think that would solve the issue of what type it is.

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destry- wish i knew how, i printed the instructions from one of the forums just today, will give it a try ( im from detroit- you of all people have  to know we are slower on getting our act together....bob



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Bob, You can email them to me and I'll post them for you if that will help. erfabian3@metrocast.net   Bob

My mistake try it again.

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bob-sent the picture using gmail..received a reply that it was rejected by metrocast,thanks anyway, i will figure it out--i appreciate everyones help..bob

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Bob- the slider along side the trigger and presumably moving parallel to it you mentioned (rather than a "rocker") sounds like a Parker factory trigger. As records are problematic regarding detail after 1919, the gun could have gone back to Meriden for its SST.

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Pic of Robert's trigger:




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Another "mystery trigger", I fear, atleast upon external examination. The selector slide does not look standard Meriden issue to me and the "catch" certainly is not. The blade appears to be the factory rear double trigger (?)...Perhaps either a Lefler prototype or a selector added later. We would need an internal view to offer more specious opinions;) It a AAH and if the trigger works that's more than enough for me!:dude:

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works, only doubled on me once...scared me silly...counted my fingers..all was well...never happened again.....thanks to all of you for your help, your a good bunch,,bob



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