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Albert Zinn
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Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 10:54 pm |
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Now friends, I must admit that I do not enjoy a personal acquaintance with the redoubtable Mr. Hoffard, but I certainly am familiar with him thru his many and interesting posts on our site.
We all know that heaven to Destry is freezing his hindquarters off in a duck blind with a heavy 36" barrelled 12 or 10, preferrably on a #4 or larger frame!
When I first saw this gun, I thought that this was just the ticket to make an upland gentleman out of him - as delicate a 10 bore as you'll ever find. This "little" 10 is on a #2 frame with 30" barrels - when I first picked it up, I was sure it was a 12! I especially like the dark red, rich Walnut and the fishtail lever.
What do you say, Destry? - 1 1/4" oz's of 8's ought to be just the ticket for a Pat'ridge or giant Timberdoodle and you'll be sure to follow thru!
I apologize for the quality of the pictures, but I had no decent place to shoot and dying batteries in the camera.
Thanks, as always, to Dave Miles for posting pictures.
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Al Zinn
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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 11:00 pm |
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I'm interested to see this one at least. A friend just bought a #1 frame 32 inch 16 gauge and I actually like it. Maybe I'm slipping.....
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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 02:17 am |
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Was that 16 a hammer or hammerless?? I just missed a 16 hammer gun on a 1 frame but do not believe that the barrels were 32"... It was on the trap shooters site. Sounds like a nice duck gun.
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Albert Zinn
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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 12:20 pm |
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Dave:
If you can, please put the pic of the barrel flats also.
Tks,
Al Zinn
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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 01:30 pm |
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| The ventures into the uplands by Duleep Singh Hoffard are few and far between. His preferred "grouse hunting" would be in Yorkshire from a butt and on his if two things occur, 1) he buys a lottery ticket and 2) he actually wins same... Perhaps, he can get Roger to come along as his loader...a pair of Churchill 8 bores on the moors and a fedored Duleep replete in tweeds, a left and a right and bewildered spaniel gathering up the well and truly dead...a sight of God like proportions to behold!
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Albert Zinn
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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 02:11 pm |
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Don:
I tell you what: I'd volunteer to be the loader for that, but we might need two loaders - Destry's guns are probably a little heavier than their British cousins.
I could well imagine my arms turning to mush as frantically pass the 10 pounders back & forth...
Al Zinn
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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 03:57 pm |
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Don;
I'll load Destry's shootin iron right after I load mine and we both might get loaded as Yorkshire is close enough to the land of heather and single malt for the waring of our tartan ties. Please no thoughts of kilts.
BTW Albert, that gun has my attrntion, it's beautiful!!
Roger
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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 09:50 pm |
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That is a dandy gun, I love a fishtail toplever. Is that one of your guns Albert?
I've often thought of a light 10 gauge or a heavy 16 gauge for a warm weather fowling piece.
Don is right, I'm too thick through the middle and my knees are far too creaky to do much in the uplands. I've had my days of it though, rabbits in front of a good pack of beagle hounds being my preference.
I'll stick with ducks, geese, rails, and other various odd water birds that cross my path.
I don't mind a good squirrel hunt every once in awhile. I just traded for a American Arms single shot 12 gauge with a 40 inch barrel. Should be hell on the fox squirrels in the tall timber come fall. I've got a couple boxes of paper 1 ounce of #6 that will be death.
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Albert Zinn
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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 10:59 pm |
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Destry:
I'm very glad that you like it. I do not own this gun - I have thought about it many times, just for it's wonderful quality, but I hold off because I am not a waterfowl hunter and 10's are so expensive to feed if you don't reload.
It's owner would probably sell it, but not cheaply.
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 01:31 am |
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Albert,
Thanks for posting pictures of those barrels! They give me inspiration to get back to rubbing on the tubes of #68521. Another EH,#2 Frame, 30" barrels still choked Mod/Full, at 8lbs 8oz. A sister gun delivered in 1891 to T.W.Bennett of Ft. Madison, Iowa. Being right along the Mighty Miss. I suppose Mr. Bennett did a bit of waterfowl hunting. This "little" 10 has also fooled some into thinking she was a 12, until they pushed the fishtail over and peered into the gaping 10 ga chambers. As for upland hunting I think I'll stick to my lighter 26" 16ga, besides,with the beautifully uniform patterns that these factory Parker chokes throw, an 1 1/4 oz load would be an unfair advantage against Mr. Pat'rige
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Albert Zinn
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 10:59 am |
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Robert:
Thanks for your post of a long-lost sister. The greatest thing about this gun is its wonderful condition - it is completely untouched and has great barrel figure and a deep, rich dark red walnut that just reeks of quality. It's not perfect - the screws need help, but it's just a great old example of why Parkers are "American Best."
Every time a pick I pick it up, I know I should own it, but then I say to myself: "What will you do with it?" If it were a 12, or 10ga ammo available more cheaply, I would have bought it long ago.
BTW, Destry, were you planning to actually shoot squirrels with that long-barreled single shot, or just reach out and tap them over the head with it?
Regards,
Al Zinn
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 12:05 pm |
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I've been wanting one of these super long single shots since I was a kid. Had chances to buy 36 inch ones a couple times but I always passed waiting on that real "Long Tom" piece. It's not the longest I ever heard of, my buddy Charlie Cleveland says his neighbor has a 48 incher that he's been trying to buy since the 60's.
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 01:23 pm |
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Speaking of #2 frame 10g Parkers, one of the jobs my long off-season project list is having a set of #2 frame D3 32" 10g barrels fitted to my 1919 #2 frame D3 20g 3" straight grip gun. The 10g barrels are finished and complete with hook and extractor but unnumbered as to weight or serial number. I picked them up on eBay awhile back. I'm not quite sure what "utility" adding the short 10 to the long 20 (already shooting 1 1/4 oz loads) results in but I always thought such an odd combo properly done would be kind of cool
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Albert Zinn
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 01:39 pm |
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Don:
I guess if you want it - that's a good enough reason!
Here's one that is interesting:
I recently saw a GH12 damascus gun - #2 frame, 30" bbls - pretty common gun. But it had been fitted later with a set of 30" 16 ga Vulcan steel barrels, serial numbered to the gun with additional matching forearm. Serial no 85817.
The original gun had the characteristic dings on one side of the forearm where it had been laid in a duck boat repeatedly. Years later, its master must have decided to hunt pheasant or the like.
So you end up with a very heavy 16 of not much utility, but very interesting!
Al Zinn
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 02:36 pm |
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| I'd very much like a long, heavy 16 on a #2 frame! A wonderful early season, "in the timber" duck gun shooting 1 or 1 1/8 oz bismuth loads. I just bought a 32" 16g #1 frame VHE for such a purpose but at just over 7 lbs it won't have the "road hugging weight" I like in a dedicated fowler. At 8 lbs, the DH 32" D3 20 ga mentioned above does fill the bill. I've had some pretty good success with it general duck hunting. Last edited on Fri Mar 27th, 2009 02:37 pm by Don Kaas
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 07:14 pm |
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Wow!!!! I thought that #1 frame 32 inch that Don just bought was cool. But on a #2 frame? That's really extra cool.
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