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Frank Townsend
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 12:21 am |
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I stumbled on to this one,was it built that way? Looks pretty clean and really dark walnut. Did people order lower grade guns with higher grade checkering? Or is this a "A" grade wanta be? I like the fore-end checkering. Were the higher grades always fine?
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 12:51 am |
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Would love to see more pictures. That is very well done but only a letter might tell for sure. . . and even that is a great big maybe.
The checkering, including the full coverage of the forend, is at least consistant with an upgrade, whether or not it was done by Parker. It looks to have been very well done. Checkered panels done simply to cover a pinned stock were usually the only "upgrade" done to the wood. The owner wanted his stock fixed and the repair disguised but that was about enough, cost often being a consideration.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 01:16 am |
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The Parker checkered cheek panels I have seen are indented with a sloped surrounding border, then the checkering.
Lots of checkering was a trend to embellish guns during the 50's, maybe earlier also.
Sometimes stock cheeks were checkered to hide a cross pin or dowel added to correct a cracked head.
Doesn't have the correct Parker look to me, but a research letter might help.
The higher the grade, the finer the checkering. See TPS.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 01:34 am |
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| This is the Parker surround indentation. Every factory one I have seen is cut in this style. You might also check TPS for lots of other examples. Attached Image (viewed 277 times):
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 02:18 am |
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I have seen a great many non-Parker checkered side panels that were also recessed as you have illustrated and done as a disguise for a pinned stock. I have also seen some with glued on side panels reshaped and recessed and checkered to disguise a pinned stock that I have no idea if were done by Parker or a good stock man.
Bruce, the stock you have shown is very likely to have been ordered that way rather than to have been sent back either for the upgraded checkered panels or to have the stock pinned and disguised. Am I right?
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 03:06 am |
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Let us remember Mr Murphy's very fancy DH in Parker Pages a year ago. That buyer requested checkered cheeks on his guns, and they were furnished without charge. Forends "checked all over" were often furnished without charge. The Parker order book was Mr King's tool to see that proper charges were levied for ordered items. If there was to be no charge for an item, it may very well not have been entered; abscense of a book entry does not necessarily mean that item was not provided.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 11:02 am |
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| Factory or not, it's still a beautiful gun.
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Dave Miles
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 11:23 am |
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Frank Townsend wrote: I stumbled on to this one,was it built that way? Looks pretty clean and really dark walnut. Did people order lower grade guns with higher grade checkering? Or is this a "A" grade wanta be? I like the fore-end checkering. Were the higher grades always fine?
Frank
I had that gun listed on GunBroker for almost nothing, ED1 bought it for $500.00
26" Damascus barrels, with bright bores,and cyl. chokes. Barrels have been cut from 30",Crack at wrist repaired, and a little loose on face. 1-1/2 frame size, with 13-3/4" lop with 2-5/8" DAH. Weighs 7 lbs. Stock has been cut, and pad added. Receiver has good screws, that's the best thing going for it.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 12:35 pm |
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Dean Romig wrote: Bruce, the stock you have shown is very likely to have been ordered that way rather than to have been sent back either for the upgraded checkered panels or to have the stock pinned and disguised. Am I right?
Of course Dean. Its a B grade and checkered side panels were standard. I showed that as illustrative of Parker done side panels. Usually when some local stocker checkers the side panels, he doesn't get it right, and doesn't indent the checkered panel.
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| Dave- I like a man who gives a forthright description! BTW, I shot that 32" 16g "P" toplever #1 frame choked .020/.020 you sold me on released mallards last weekend. I used 1 oz factory Bismuth #6s. Nice duck gun for light work. The straight grip juglans regia stock that I put on to replace the cracked original pg one seemed to work quite well with 1 3/8"x2" drop. It was its first time out.-Don
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 01:21 pm |
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Don, I would like to shoot that gun again, with the straight stock. However, I think I'd be a foot over the target with only 2" DAH. 
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 01:25 pm |
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Frank; Please check your P.M.s . Russ
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 01:29 pm |
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| A pigeon shooter's bias towards high stocks I guess. Anything less than 2" d@h seems low to me and successful shotgunning is as much "feel" as it is science. My D grade 32" T3 toplever pigeon gun came out at 1 1/8"x 1 7/8" and it still shoots flat. That one actually feels "high"!
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