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Dick Baum
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 06:17 pm |
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| I am resurecting a GH 12 ga. I have discovered, under layers of crud and paint??, a very nice English butt stock. It has modern dimensions, except LOP to the front trigger is about 14"and I want 1/2" more. The stock has a DHBP with spur and I am not going to cut it. I purchased a 1/4" Cheekeeze and cut two pieces approximating the size of butt plate. Since these are self sticking and removable I put one on top of the other, then sort of ground to fit. While this looks a little scruffy, it does the job. Do any of the advanced collectors or shooters have a better solution, while still preserving the original stock and buttplate? Dick Baum
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 06:51 pm |
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| You could try the rubber slip on pad, just don't leave it on the gun, when your not shooting it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 07:42 pm |
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| I have used a slip on pad with good success. Cost is less than $15.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 07:43 pm |
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| A Galco slip-on pad is what I'd recommend--they add 5/8" to LOP and look good. Just be sure to remove it after shooting as I've heard reports that it will leave a shadow on the stock--probably due to condensation.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 07:53 pm |
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| Galco International of Phoenix, Az, sells a leather boot that will extend your LOP about 3/8 of an inch but you can fabricate fillers to extend the LOP to perfection. They come in small, medium, and large, however I recomend the medium size for most Parker guns from my own experience. These boots make a neat job of extending a stock and also have a pleasant appearance. http://WWW.USGALCO.COM is their web site. RogerCoger
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Fred Preston
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 08:49 pm |
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Roger,
What's wrong with duct tape and cardboard?
Fred
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 09:36 pm |
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I use a Galco slip-on pad, the nice looking leather job with the Velcro securing tab. It adds the length I need and provides a little recoil absorption as well.
I would use the lace-up job but I swap it from my 0-frame Repro to my 0-frame 16ga GHe.
I have left it on my Repro for months at a time with no ill effects to the stock.
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Dick Baum
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 09:49 pm |
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| So now we know: advanced collectors use cardboard and duct tape! Seriously, the cheekeeze is the solution for Roger,as I recall from a former thread. To all who responded with the fix of a slip-on, I do have one, but I was looking for a semi-permanent solution. I thought someone would have discovered a flexible pad that was better than my idea. Thank you all. Dick Baum
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Jeff Mulliken
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 10:33 pm |
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The period correct pad from Galazan has a spur on it. You could fit one yourself and swap it out with the dogs head plate whenever you want the extra length.
Jeff
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Fred Preston
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Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2005 11:25 pm |
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Dick & Jeff,
I have an old VH that came up short on me. I bought a Silvers replica from Galazan with the spur and a friend, Stan Temchek, a retired machinist from F. E. Meyers with a fine metal & wood hobby shop, shaped, fitted and installed it for me (cost me several High Lifes and suffering many high decible polkas); and, it's just where I want it. I put the original dog face plate away in case I ever want to part with the VH.
Fred
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 12:26 am |
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| Fred, one must have a very special DH inorder to apply such a refined amendment to a Parker, not just any old clunker. RogerCoger
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Fred Preston
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 12:28 am |
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A picture is worth several (thousand) words, so here is the afore mentioned VH. We'll see how long Greg puts up with this Parker porn.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 12:35 am |
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| Fred, Good picture but I had no idea that you owned an old clunker too....RogerCoger
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 01:42 am |
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Roger; If my Clunker would knock 'em down as regularly as your's does, I'd be quite happy.
Fred
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 01:47 pm |
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My experience with the Galazan period correct pad is that apparantly there was more than one style of spurred butt plate and the shapes of them varied considerably.
The one I bought from Tony did not fit properly because the spur was too small for the inletted area in the stock. My remedy was through a new/old No-Shok pad I bought from Kevin Mc. and shaped and fitted it myself. The 1903 GH that I fitted it to had a hard rubber dogs head butt plate but it was badly fractured. I was able to grind down the still intact heel section of the original butt plate to the point where it filled the inletted area in the stock and the No-Shok pad with its accompanying black plastic spacer fit perfectly (almost invisibly) over it. It is really a neat job although time-consuming.
Best, Dean
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Dick Baum
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 06:50 pm |
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| Dean: Now some things are starting to make sense. This could be dangerous. I bought a "technically superior recoil pad" from Tony and the spur is also too small. I was thinking of how to fill the voids. You did it be using the original spur from the DHBP and fitting a pad over it. My DHBP is still in fairly good condition and I don't want to sacrifice it. Besides, my stock is slightly curved. Maybe I have done enough already and should leave well enough alone. The gun has some other warts that can't be cured so I'll just live with the scruffy end of the gun. Thanks to all for their advice. Dick Baum
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 09:00 pm |
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Dick,
Weird thought, but might be worth a try.
Remove your DHBP, line the spur on the wood with saran wrap and pack it full of black epoxy. Screw the pad on and let it set. When hard, pull it out and sand it to fit flush with the comb and your recoil pad.
Jeff
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 11:01 pm |
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| Jeff: That is an interesting idea. Does your stock have a slight curve at the butt? And if so did the new pad willingly take the bend? Dick
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Posted: Wed Jan 12th, 2005 11:24 pm |
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Dick, I have installed several pads of all description and I have found that they DO NOT settle into the curve of the butt. I have a disc sander and I sand off the curve so the butt is flat. Sanding the pad to match the butt's curve probably will not work very well as most pads have a black hard rubber spacer ahead of the rubber and it is not thick enough to shape corectly.
Jeffs idea of seran wrap in the spur area probably will work but an easier way is to apply Johnsons paste wax in the spur area liberally then do the epoxy thing.
RogerCoger
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Fred Preston
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Posted: Thu Jan 13th, 2005 12:56 am |
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Dick,
The VH image posted on this thread 1/11/05, 8:28 shows that the spacer did not draw up completely in the heel part of the butt (that's where the silght curve is).
Check the image on Dave Miles' "Trying to get Discussions Going" thread at 1/11/05, 4:37 for the image of my DHE with the factory installed Hawkins pad; standard Parker fit.
Fred
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