Provenance - Page 3

Opening Day · 03-12-2010, 09:08 AM

I still want to know who is the true owner of the gun...... The person who consigned the gun or an insurance company? Does the person who consigned the gun have any release from the insurance company that paided the claim if not I think ownership would be the insurance company. Food for thought if you are thinking about spending that kind of money.

Dean Romig · 03-12-2010, 09:42 AM

Once settlement has been made the clock starts ticking on the Statute of Limitations...
tick-tick-tick-tick-...... DING-DING-DING-DING.... Too Late!

Jared V. · 03-12-2010, 12:10 PM

Wasn't there a serial # descrepancy between the Fox records and Buckingham's personal records on the gun? Also, the letters on the top of the barrels look like they were applied very poorly. Perhaps other Burt Becker guns were done this way?
JJV

Kevin McCormack · 03-12-2010, 01:15 PM

Jared - I guess we would have to refer to that one as "Bo Whoopie 2". That is one screaming D grade PAC!!!

dave s · 04-02-2010, 11:06 AM

I have good information about how a guy from back east who contacteda certain Tony. to make a copy of the Czar's parker back in the1980's Tony required a deposit of $90,000. When the gun was finished the buyer decided he wanted his money back and not the shotgun. This all ended up in court where the judge decided that "This case sounds like two crooks were out to screw each other" so neither person was favored in the decisison. So folks; I don't believe that this so called recently sold czar's parker has any real merit, especially with a fake being out there. My info from a member of the Ye old conn. gun guild and the american society. I am just relating a factual story to remind all of us that there are lots of money to be made in in faking guns as well as documentation.

Bill Murphy · 04-02-2010, 02:27 PM

In my opinion, Tony's "Not the Czar's Parker" will sell for more than the Czar's Parker next time it goes on the block.

Dean Romig · 04-02-2010, 05:03 PM

That's very old news Dave. Nonetheless, it is a good example of guns that get "faked up".

Bill Murphy · 04-02-2010, 06:05 PM

I know Tony and I know Mr. CC. Believe me, the judge made the right decision. I would like to have a copy of the court record (that has been thrown about over the years) emailed to me at wilmrph@verizon.net if some reader has it available. I have meant to add it to my "Czar's Gun" collection, but have never done it. I think the "Not the Czar's Gun" is a wonderful example of shotgun art. It is pictured in The Parker Story along with its history. I wish Bill Mullins and Charlie Price had told the whole story.

Dean Romig · 04-02-2010, 06:17 PM

I think some things are better left unsaid. I think the authors of TPS gave it about as much paper as it warranted, considering the object of the book was to enlighten the reader about the Parker gun and it's history - not all the details they (ther authors) knew about the provenance of each special gun.

Bill Murphy · 04-02-2010, 08:55 PM

Dean, I asked for it to be emailed to me. I didn't ask for it to be posted on this forum. I am a researcher and I have a taste for the "mushy and unusual". Would someone please email me the court transcript of the Cail Galazan case?