20 ga. gun weights

[Bill Murphy]

My grouse gun of choice is my 6 1/4 pound J.P.Sauer ten gauge 26" Krupp barrels. It is light, fast handling, and with a boomer in the left barrel, can scratch down a second shot 50 yard bird without any problem. Of course, my grouse chasing days are over. I'm still very fond of this rare little Sauer.

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

Thanks for correcting me, Brian and Reggie, about the frame sizes Parker made 20s on.

With that correction, what does this mean (copied and pasted directly from the Parker site home page information)? If this is inaccurate should it not be corrected? Possibly they "offered" 20s in all these frame sizes , but that isn't clear to me the way it is stated (taken from TPS). Is the "Parker Story" wrong?


Frame Sizes by Gauge


Frame Size Gauges Used

000 28, .410
00 28, .410
0 16, 20, 28
1/2 12, 16, 20
1 10, 12, 16, 20
1 1/2 12, 16, 20
2 10, 12, 20
3 10, 12, 16
4 10
5 8, 10
6 8, 10, 12
7 8, 10
Source: The Parker Story - Vol. II

Where did you see the above in TPS? The below is a pic taken of frame sizes on Pg. 527 in Vol. 2 of TPS. This chart varies from the above. In NOTES: lower left see “g”,as there are some exceptions not listed in chart.

[Bill Murphy]

Some time back, I initiated a thread where I added some frame sizes that the authors were not aware of. The sizes mentioned in this current thread were a result of that older thread. Good luck finding it, but the "new" chart is in the current thread, this one. Stan's attribution of TPS for the updated chart was in error, his first.

[Bill Murphy]

Edgar, the 1/2 frame 20 is one of the guns in the BHE four barrel, two gun set built for Centerville, Maryland NSSA shooter, Cliff Green. A 16 gauge 1/2 frame gun can easily be built with a set of #1 frame 16 gauge barrels like the DHE 1/2 frame that I own. In my opinion, the factory probably built more than one of those. The 000 frame 28 gauge was owned by a neighbor of mine, now passed, and I have no idea where it is today. He displayed it at a PGCA annual meeting and show at Ohio Gun Collectors some years ago. I measured the frame and it is a true 000 frame gun. Is that sweet or what?

[George Lang]

VH 26" 5# 13oz O frame
Trojan 26" 6# 1oz O frame

[Robert Brooks]

VH 0 frame 28 inch 6/0 Bobby

[Jon Weber]

DHE 20 O frame 26"barrels at 5lbs 10oz

[Stan Hillis]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Some time back, I initiated a thread where I added some frame sizes that the authors were not aware of. The sizes mentioned in this current thread were a result of that older thread. Good luck finding it, but the "new" chart is in the current thread, this one. Stan's attribution of TPS for the updated chart was in error, his first.

If it is an error on my part it's because the error is posted on this website. I said clearly that i copied and pasted it from this site.

If anyone wants to look at it go here and see for yourself.

https://parkerguns.org

Click on "Technical Information" then scroll down and look under the heading " Frame Sizes by Gauge", and you will see exactly what I copied and pasted into my original post on this thread.

Now, please show me where I made an error, and I will admit and correct it. This website says it was taken from TPS. Or alternatively, tell me that there is an error on the website, or in TPS.

[Stan Hillis]

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

Where did you see the above in TPS? The below is a pic taken of frame sizes on Pg. 527 in Vol. 2 of TPS. This chart varies from the above. In NOTES: lower left see “g”,as there are some exceptions not listed in chart.

I didn't see it in TPS. I saw it on this website and it states there that it was taken from TPS. See above post.

[Bill Murphy]

Stan, your "error" was not of your making. The "error" was that the information was not taken directly from The Parker Story as implied. It was taken from the later correction of The Parker Story information, which was also incomplete and somewhat incorrect. My comment was not intended to disrespect your information, only to update it to better information. The best information is not from The Parker Story, but from corrections on this site.