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Unread 07-10-2014, 03:39 PM   #41
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Regarding KDGJ's comment:

It does seem odd for RST to lay out a disclaimer that, per this thread, has no sccientific merit. ...and Bruce makes a good point. What IS a modern shotgun ? There is no "date" or design, or specific barrel alloy defining that term, so wouldn't it be legally useless ?

But then again, we need coffe cups with warnings that read "Contents are hot!"
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I don't speak for RST but I have an idea it has something to do with their insurer.
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I know, and you are 100 % correct.

It just bothers me that we need to waste SO MUST TIME playing "Cover Your *ss" in this country...
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What is a modern shotgun. I learned at the last NRA show from Remington that a modern shotgun has a black plastic stock and
matt finished metal. It may be semi auto or pump but holds at least five shots. The forend should have a pistol grip extending downwardly.

Similarly a modern hunting rifle is an AR or AK clone with at least a 15 round magazine.

Everything else is your grandfathers gun.
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I guess I don't have any modern guns then...

Not a problem at all.
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Similarly a hunter must wear camo in the upland game fields and apply face paint so the game will not see him. And your pick up truck flashlight and knife must also be camo. Anything less and you are not a real hunter.

You must also think Ted Nugent is a great musician and a spokesman for all sportsmen
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Sherman Bell's articles Finding Out for Myself and The Forgotten 10's were some the best articles ever published in the DGJ in my opinion. They sure cost me some money chasing Damascus Parkers and 10 bore Elsies. Small gun auctions around my neck of the woods still hammer down dangerous Damascus guns for a song.
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I wish they would make a book out of those articles. That was before I was a regular subscriber, but I have a few of the issues.
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I'd be willing to bet this BB has more than one lawyer on it....and if we are going to lament the fallout of product liability claims then we have to include the lawyers in that mix.

As for Ted Nugent.....well, he's a bit much for my taste but I give him credit for standing apart from the usual views of his trade. Your average musician would never touch a gun or hunt anything - and would be glad if you never did either. Moreover, Ted also stayed away from drugs and alcohol his entire career....so Miles Davis he might not be but then that's not all bad.
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Like Brad B. said the poor quality of some low grade European doubles led to many failures, but shooters that were used to stuffing as much black powder as would fit into their shotgun hulls probably caused quite a few as well. I wonder how well "drams equivalent" was understood in the early years.
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