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Unread 05-11-2020, 03:53 PM   #1
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Anyone have a 12 gauge load 2 1/2" using green dot powder? I have some powder I would like to use. Thanks
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Use a recommended 2 3/4" load for the shot weight you want to use. Green Dot is a little slow burning for real light loads, like 7/8 ounce, so stick to 1 ounce or more at 1200 FPS or more. The Alliant site is full of loads. Ignore the length of the cartridge.
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Thanks, I appreciate the information.
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1 1/8 ounce loads should be OK at slightly less than 1200. The extra shot load is to keep the pressure up for cold weather use. I wouldn't try to use Green Dot 7/8 oz or 1 oz loads at low velocity, especially in cold weather.
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Just this week, I loaded my first 2 1/2" shells on my Ponsness Warren 375 with a home made 2 1/2" sizing die made by a friend. Apparently, PW doesn't sell such a die any more, if they ever did. I used it to load some of Morris Baker's RST empties with some Federal SO wads and 7/8 ounces of shot. I thought that the SO wad would be too tall for a 7/8 ounce load in a 2 1/2" hull, but it is a perfect fit.
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bill what load are you going to put in those 4 inch 8 ga shells....charlie
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Charlie, what I would like to do is load the eights with a light load (1 1/4 ounce) at low velocity with Red Dot. I have a bunch of Red Dot and some Clays so would rather use that than a slower powder. A fast powder like Red Dot should not cause any pressure problems when shot out of that big hole. I think you have recommended a Red Dot load for the eights. What is that load? By the way, all my eight gauge hulls are standard 3 1/4". I wanted to get some 4" brass from Don Kaas, but I never approached him about those hulls. They were Rocky Mountain Cartridge hulls and cost a fortune when available. I have never measured my eight gauge chambers, so I don't know if I own a 4" chambered gun. My Greener Royal is marked 3 3/4" Nitro Proof.
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There are more loads with different powders at 7/8oz, but the Alliant handbook list one load in a Rem hull, and four different loads in the Win or Fed hulls, all at 7/8oz payload. So, if you have it and want to use it, I wouldn't hesitate for a minute.
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One other thought I had... I ordered some new Cheddite hulls, and the Bismuth shot....

We are still several months away from Waterfowl season, maybe I do some initial loads with them using some #8 lead shot for target loads, get the crimp down right for these hulls, so when I do the Bismuth loads, the crimp should already be figgured out....

I could do some 1.25 oz target loads for them so they should be close to same.
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The Stack height will be a little higher with Bismuth as opposed to lead, lead being more dense .
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