Help with ID

David Cooper · 01-18-2014, 09:45 PM

Hi all, I have a gun that I am having a little trouble with ID. Serial Number 87746, Grade mark "P", which I interpret as Grade 1, it is hammerless and also has ejectors. No marks on barrel whatsoever but it is a 12 ga. Any help appreciated. Can send more pics if it would help. Thanks!

Holeshot · 01-18-2014, 11:07 PM

Welcome aboard, You do have a PH, has extractors instead of ejectors, and looks like someone did a little extra engraving around the barrels. Looks like a great gun. Dave

John D. · 01-19-2014, 08:58 AM

Hi David..!

First - welcome aboard to the forum!

As well, let me move this into the main forum area where it will probably get a few more "eyes" on your post and pictures...

My best to you!

John

B. Dudley · 01-19-2014, 09:31 AM

The barrels look to most likely be an aftermarket set. There are no markings on them at all?
They could be a set of Vickers barrels, but they were usually marked as so on the top rib or the bottoms of the tubes in front of the chambers.

Your gun would have originally been fitted with Twist Steel barrels.
So, the aftermarket set could have been fitted to the gun back in the days when all composite barrels were "unsafe" to shoot.

What is the clover in the stock? is it on the surface or is it an inlay? If inlaid, it most likely is covering up a bolt or screw through the head of the stock.

Angel Cruz Ortiz · 01-19-2014, 10:11 AM

Looks like an Irish clover.

Bill Murphy · 01-19-2014, 10:21 AM

You might include a picture of the breech of the barrels to clear up the "extractors or ejectors" question. If the gun truly has automatic ejectors, they are retrofit. Nice looking gun, with interesting inlays.

David Cooper · 01-19-2014, 10:56 AM

I do believe they are "extractors" rather than ejectors but will post a pic later. I did check again and there are no markings of any kind on the barrel. As for the nice clovers, apparently someone painted them on the stock. Can't imagine why they felt it would be a good idea.

B. Dudley · 01-19-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by David Cooper

As for the nice clovers, apparently someone painted them on the stock. Can't imagine why they felt it would be a good idea.

At least that makes them somewhat easy to get rid of.

David Cooper · 01-19-2014, 11:07 AM

I do believe they are "extractors" rather than ejectors but will post a pic later. I did check again and there are no markings of any kind on the barrel. As for the nice clovers, apparently someone painted them on the stock. Can't imagine why they felt it would be a good idea.

charlie cleveland · 01-19-2014, 01:41 PM

those are some nice barrels who ever made them...the gun is nice and will break clays or birds as you wish and the best part it is a parker...charlie