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Unread 02-20-2017, 05:49 PM   #1
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Default Rib legends.

I was at Turnbulls last week and was looking through the selection of Parker roll stamps that they have and saw one that was very interesting. I double checked The Parker Story and there is no mention of it. And i have not seen a gun with it yet.
It is a short legend that simply reads "THE PARKER BROTHERS GUN". With the typical arrows at each end of it.

Has anyone seen this mark on a gun or know when it may have been used?
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Unread 02-20-2017, 07:31 PM   #2
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Nope, never have.

It would be interesting to learn whatever might be discovered about it.





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There's one for Parkers found! Let's see if we can find one!
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Default Brothers vs Bros

Brian, do you believe the stamping roll is legitimate? If it is, and I have no reason to believe it either is or is not, I wonder what it's intended use would have been.
The use of the fully spelled out word 'Brothers' appears somewhat infrequently on barrels, and I have only seen one gun where it was spelled out on the receiver.
I was sure I had at least one gun with the words 'Brothers' on the barrel legend, and found I have two; a 179xxx VH 16, and an 89xxx VH 12;
Six Hammer guns, in 4 grades, ranging from 16xxx to 79xxx, all say 'Bros'.

One set of Damascus 16ga Hammerless (89,xxx) says 'Bros'.

Four Titanic barrels here say 'Bros', but I don't know what two sets, away for refinishing say.

One set of Parker Special Steel say 'Bros', and one set of Acme, says 'Bros' also. This set is only a few thound guns away from the 179xxxVH that says 'Brothers'.
I would be interested in hearing about other guns, and barrel steel grades that are marked 'Brothers'.

Apologies to Brian if I've somewhat hijacked his thread topic.
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No prob.
The fact that it says Brothers vs Bros. is interesting in itself.

Since it has brothers at all, it must have been from the Meriden Era. And maybe just never used for anything.

I dont know what to think of its legitimacy. I guess i have nonreason to beleive it is not. I am sure all those rolls may have come out of Lefevers. Not sure.
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I find it odd that the roll die simply says THE PARKER BROTHERS GUN with no barrel steel identifier. I can't even imagine what gun or grade of gun that stamp might have been used for.

Maybe it was intended to roll stamp a plate for use in a display of Parker guns in a show or exhibition identifying all of them as THE PARKER BROTHERS GUN.





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Brian didn't indicate the font size, but I would have guessed a Display legend would have been much larger, and probably hand engraved, or printed.
The technology available to Parker, in the making of a roll stamp was pretty basic. It would have likely been a high carbon blank, hand engraved in an annealed condition, then hardened. This process would likely have taken several days.
With today's available technology, such a tool could be produced in a matter of hours, likely using an EDM method (Electrical Discharge Machining) using an engraved graphite die
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interesting find...charlie
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That is a thought dean. Maybe.

The font size is comparable to a rib legend.
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Shall we see how many " Brothers " we can find? I have one on a VH # 95xxx
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