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Now I see the difference, thanks.
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07-20-2014, 10:23 PM | #15 | ||||||
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i too see the differance in the early and late models..i shot the remington 10 yesterday but did not get to pattern it...i shot a can at about 60 steps use ing little skeetersreducers from 10 to 12 ga..it really moved that old can i did not even walk out and see how many holes because i had already shot the can several times...the gun shoots good..the right barrel is marked with53 and the left is marked with 40..i know that remington marked the barrels as to how many shotit put in the target but this dont seem right does it..and pete measured the choke and the left barrel has more choke than the right but the numbers says differant.whats ya lls theory on this...charlie
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07-20-2014, 11:35 PM | #16 | ||||||
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Very nice find Charlie
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When the pellet count is only two digits, a leading 3 is implied. In that the heaviest 10-gauge shells UMC was producing at the time Model 1894s were being built, were 1 1/4 ounce, I feel pretty safe in concluding the 10-gauges were patterned with the same 1 1/4 ounce of #8c as the 12-gauges. And, I'm equally convinced the 16-gauges were patterned with one ounce of #8c.
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I agree with him because if the same load was used then each 10 gauge 1894 I have seen threw a more open pattern than the average 12ga 1894 and 1900. Look at my picture, do you think that 10ga threw a more open pattern with .045 and .046 of choke and .792 bores than that 12ga with .024 of choke? Looking at the stamps on those lugs that is what a leading 3 would imply for the same load being used and there is no way that would happen then or will happen today. If they used 1 1/4 ounce of 7 1/2's in a 10 gauge and a leading 3 is implied, my 10 ga in that picture would have patterned 326 out of 423 (77%) and 345 our of 423 (81.5%). It patterned 92.5% and 93% with a modern load of #6 so I think the numbers are realistic. |
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Until we find a 10-gauge hang tag or two it is all conjecture, and we can each conjecture any way we want!! There are some interesting inconsistancies in the hang tags, like this one pictured in Charles' book --
It gives loads for all three gauges on the back, but doesn't mention the amount of shot in the loads, just powder charges?!? On the front of the tag it says the gun was targetted with load X8, 24 grains of Infallible pushing 1 1/4 ounce of No. 8 chilled shot, in a 2 5/8 inch Nitro Club shell. However, in all my UMC catalogues from 1903 on, load X8 is only offered in a 2 3/4 inch or longer shell?!? |
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