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Unread 02-11-2020, 11:01 PM   #1
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Any of these early Kansas/Missouri Competition Shooters below look familiar?

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Guinotte, J.E. "20 Years of Trapshooting in Missouri, A History of the Missouri State Game and Fish Protective Association, Federation of Kansas City Gun Clubs, 1898" is digitized. Randy has posted images from his original
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/Delive...s_pid=IE994893

Upper image on left could be a young Chris Gottlieb
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads...s-city.823819/


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That is a great book. I had a copy and sold it to someone on this forum several years ago. Hoping he enjoys it - it is a very good resource.





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I think I bought my copy at a PGCA dinner. I think that might have been Dean's copy. A lot of history there.
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The rotund fella top image in the middle could be a young Frank Parmelee of Omaha, but he usually has more of a scowl.
These images were c. 1898

"Trapshooting Greats" at the 21st annual tournament of the Missouri State Game and Fish Protective Association, held in Kansas City, May 1898 at Washington Park
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Chris, any date of the photo? Can you I.D. their shotguns? Could be Gottlieb top left... top middle could be Frank Parmelee and top right may be James Riley. No guess on the other two. The 20 year Missouri book has some photo plates and lists a lot of information related to the events held during 1879-1898.

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Thanks Drew,
The photo was taken at a Leavenworth KS studio where 5 men are gathered around a nice cased trophy. With a distance of about 34 miles between Kansas City Mo, and Leavenworth KS, I believe the shooters could have easily been from that general area. When viewing an enlarged image of the trophy, I tried a few different methods (including a reverse negative) to get a better look at the inscription. The more I look, the more I see. The word Kansas is clear at the bottom, and much of the other text is also visible. If you look close you can also see 2 men in the reflection of the shiny trophy, one of which appears to be the photographer standing behind his camera taking the photo. Was curious if perhaps any of these gents might have been a few of the Elliott brothers?

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It is likely that Parmelee was the man up on the 1893 Columbian Exposition Trade Card
http://books.google.com/books?id=rbl...&pg=PA1114&lpg
He was later a Remington Professional



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Louis Erhardt of Atchison, KS was a prominent shooter in that period. Maybe a younger version lower image on left?

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