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Unread 09-08-2019, 03:07 PM   #1
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Default Small steel shot in a VHE

Please feel free to direct me to some old threads, because I realize this has no doubt been covered before:
Wife just got a very nice Rem 20 ga VHE and wants to shoot nontoxic. Have bismuth for her in *6 and larger, for grouse and pheasant, but she needs smaller for quail and snipe. Can't find anything smaller than 6 in bismuth and was wondering if a person would dare shoot #7 steel in this little VHE? It's marked modified and improved mod. We definitely don't want to damage this fine gun. Any thots or advice?

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Unread 09-08-2019, 03:11 PM   #2
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Modern steel 7 1/2 should be fine in a Remington VHE of the bores you mention. My opinion only.
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Thanks Bill. Understood and appreciated.

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Why do you need non-tox for upland game? Are you hunting in one of the few states that banned lead?
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Well, excellent question... No, we're in Idaho and can do pretty much as we want, however, the wife is a wildlife toxicologist and no very enamored of lead. I'm an old "leader" myself, but I do run into riparian quail hunts were a teal or wood duck may be encountered at close range and steel gives you more options. That said, most of my shooting is lead.
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If the chokes are more open in the gun, you would likely be ok. But personally, since you can use lead, I would personally not chance any damage by using steel.
I suggest either finding a suitable steel substitute for the gun, or tell her that using lead is the only option. OR, use a more modern gun suitable for steel.
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OK, that's what we wanted to know. Do NOT want to take a chance w/this gun. Thanks.
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Gun designed for steel, shoot steel. Gun not designed for steel, don't shoot steel. There will be no second guessing nor regret (the worst of emotions).
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A pre - WWI Parker “Vulcan” (courtesy of Ron Graham) barrel was AISI 1015.
A post - WWI Parker “Vulcan” barrel (courtesy of Dave Suponski) was AISI 1030.

Modern steel loads have a thick shot cup to protect the bores from scoring, but neither of those barrels were designed for steel.
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Makes sense - thx.
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