Connecticut Fox shotguns

[John Bastiani]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

Sorry, John, I know I'm beating the dead horse, but here are a couple of shots of my CSMC Fox 16 (and a blue/dusky grouse taken with it from a trip to Montana).

Your not hurting my feelings. I could look and admire guns like this all day. I have never owned a Fox but after viewing these pictures-I may have to find a way to get one into my collection. Galazon and his team look to have put alot of effort into producing these guns.

[Bob Jurewicz]

John,
Here is a little Grade "Special" in 410:
Bob Jurewicz

[Harry Gietler]

Originally Posted by John Bastiani

I was looking at a Fox 28 gauge (FE grade) made by Connecticut shotgun. Has anybody owned or know the particulars of these shotguns? The pictures look nice on the internet but usually don't tell the whole story. Does the engraving and case look as good in person and is the engraving done by hand? Are these guns mechanically sound with any problems? I haven't seen one of these in person but for $30000+ I'd like to make sure they are worth the money. Thanks!

I would say comparing a CSM Fox to a Original Fox, is like comparing a Parker Repro to a Original Parker, they are good Guns, but still Repro's!

Harry

[Pay Dirt]

Originally Posted by Harry Gietler

I would say comparing a CSM Fox to a Original Fox, is like comparing a Parker Repro to a Original Parker, they are good Guns, but still Repro's!Harry

Just curious why a Remington Parker is not a repro?

[Craig Larter]

I have owned mine for 20 plus years. Purchased it new. I have hunted the gun extensively from Canada to Argentina. One ejector guide pin broke and the front trigger pull got light, both fixed within weeks and returned NC.

[Harry Gietler]

Originally Posted by Bobby Cash

Just curious why a Remington Parker is not a repro?

Because Production never STOPPED ! Same with Savage made Fox's.
Let's see, some thing like 35 -40 years between Original Fox's and CSM made Fox's. I have Heard CSM Has (Owns) the rights to Parker Shotguns. If CSM starts making them again, will those "Parkers" be "Original's ?

Harry

[Terry Hobson]

I would agree on ordering one if I was going to spend upwards of $30K. Get the gun specked exactly as you want it. Not sure of the wait time on a FE, but XE and DE grades are estimated at a 9 month delivery. Life time guarantee.
I have never owned a Philly or Savage Fox , but not sure as to why they would be superior other than nostalgia.

[mobirdhunter]

It is my understanding that Parker Reproductions were marketed as such. That is certainly one reason whey we still have this discussion. I often wonder how we would view and characterize those guns if they had not been marketed as "reproductions." The term original carries its own interpretations.

What we call Parker Reproductions are well made guns. Parkers made after the acquisition by Remington are well made guns. The A. H. Fox guns made in New Britain are well made guns.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Harry Gietler

Because Production never STOPPED ! Same with Savage made Fox's.
Let's see, some thing like 35 -40 years between Original Fox's and CSM made Fox's. I have Heard CSM Has (Owns) the rights to Parker Shotguns. If CSM starts making them again, will those "Parkers" be "Original's ?Harry

The enlarged and italicized part of Harry's quote is the true key to the argument or any discussion suggesting Remington Parkers and Savage Foxes as being "reproductions."

And then we have the "Parker Reintroduction" by Remington in the 80's and then the Remington-authorized Parkers made by CSMC...
These seem to be a subjective matter of interpretation and I think it all boils down to semantics.


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[Pay Dirt]

Originally Posted by Harry Gietler

Because Production never STOPPED ! Same with Savage made Fox's.
Let's see, some thing like 35 -40 years between Original Fox's and CSM made Fox's. I have Heard CSM Has (Owns) the rights to Parker Shotguns. If CSM starts making them again, will those "Parkers" be "Original's ?Harry

So post war Superposed are reproductions ?
I'm confused