Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums Parker Hammer Guns

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
FLUID STEEL HAMMER GUNS
Unread 10-23-2016, 12:07 PM   #1
Member
WHO
PGCA Member
 
Wayne Owens's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 447
Thanks: 2,283
Thanked 1,519 Times in 252 Posts

Default FLUID STEEL HAMMER GUNS

The Parker Story lists a total of 22 fluid steel hammer guns. Included in this number are the 5 AA's, 1 A, 5 B's, 1 C, and 10 D's. Nothing below a D grade is listed and all of the guns listed are 12 gauge guns. Have any other documented fluid steel hammer guns surfaced since the publishing of The Parker Story?
Wayne Owens is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Wayne Owens For Your Post:
Unread 10-23-2016, 12:54 PM   #2
Member
Jeff K.
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Admin

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,388
Thanks: 793
Thanked 2,793 Times in 651 Posts

Default

There are some lower grade guns, but not many.
Jeff Kuss is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jeff Kuss For Your Post:
Unread 10-23-2016, 04:20 PM   #3
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 31,620
Thanks: 35,568
Thanked 33,195 Times in 12,369 Posts

Default

Jeff, do you have any knowledge of whether these "some, but not many" were originally made with fluid steel barrels or if they had been sent back to have their composite barrels replaced with fluid steel?




.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 10-23-2016, 04:49 PM   #4
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,580
Thanks: 6,150
Thanked 8,854 Times in 4,747 Posts

Default

The mystery may be partially solved by looking up a lower grade gun in question in the Serialization Book. I have seen such guns, but have no idea whether they were made that way. Now that gunsmiths know how to install hammerless barrels on hammer gun frames, more guns of this type may appear on the horizon. And, of course, some were sent back to the factory for this installation.
Bill Murphy is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Unread 10-23-2016, 05:21 PM   #5
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 31,620
Thanks: 35,568
Thanked 33,195 Times in 12,369 Posts

Default

The PGCA had one. It has Vulcan Steel barrels.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 10-23-2016, 06:58 PM   #6
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,578
Thanks: 476
Thanked 17,518 Times in 4,619 Posts

Default

I currently have in my shop, for mild restoration work, a Titanic Barreled Top Action Grade 3. It is in the 106,000 range and dates to 1900 manufacture.
It is interesting since the Serialization book lists it as a Hammerless gun, which must have just been an error and was gleaned over in the compiling of that book. Since the gun does letter as a hammer gun.

It is a 30" 12g. Top Action Grade 3 and it was ordered with NO rib extension.
This gun MAY or MAY NOT have been factored into the summary of 10 hammer guns with Titanic steel barrels. My guess would be NOT since it is not marked as so in the book.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Brian Dudley For Your Post:
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 10-23-2016, 07:37 PM   #7
Member
Craig Larter
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Craig Larter's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,536
Thanks: 2,950
Thanked 10,415 Times in 1,646 Posts

Default

106000 that has to be one of the last 10 or so D grade top lever hammer guns. Very interesting gun steel barrels and no rib extension.
Craig Larter is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-25-2016, 12:13 AM   #8
Member
MarketHunter
PGCA Member
 
Destry L. Hoffard's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,148
Thanks: 595
Thanked 4,031 Times in 1,165 Posts

Default

There was a killer original condition D grade that surfaced a few years ago. It ended up getting restocked and refinished for some bizarre reason.
__________________
I was as virtuously given as a gentleman need to be; virtuous enough; swore little; diced not above seven times a week; went to a bawdy-house once in a quarter--of an hour; paid money that I borrowed, three of four times; lived well and in good compass: and now I live out of all order, out of all compass. Falstaff - Henry IV
Destry L. Hoffard is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Destry L. Hoffard For Your Post:
Unread 10-25-2016, 12:48 PM   #9
Member
WHO
PGCA Member
 
Wayne Owens's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 447
Thanks: 2,283
Thanked 1,519 Times in 252 Posts

Default

Does the PGCA's database have the search capability of searching for top lever/lifter hammer guns built with different types of fluid steel barrels? Since the database includes many more guns than the Parker Story lists, it would be very interesting to see how many more fluid steel hammer guns are listed. Maybe an article for the Parker Pages?
Wayne Owens is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-25-2016, 09:34 PM   #10
Member
Phil C
PGCA Member
 
Phillip Carr's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,161
Thanks: 3,466
Thanked 5,947 Times in 1,437 Posts

Default

Wayne an article would be great. I really enjoyed our visit today and getting to see some nice guns and talk SXS. Hopefully you can get the information you are searching for.
Phillip Carr is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Phillip Carr For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.