Anyone have a LC smith long range?

[Mills]

Those holes do not look good, I agree. We have a moratorium on buying guns now, so probably best I did not see

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by Mills Morrison

We have a moratorium on buying guns now,

so you have said

but you rose to this like a wild brookie to a royal coachman

[Mills]

The moratorium is barely holding on

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Rick Losey

so you have said

but you rose to this like a wild brookie to a royal coachman

Yuck a "Mr.Rapidan is far superior !

On "The Rapidan" generally sizes 14-20

[Jäger]

Can the long ranges take modern 3"?

[OH Osthaus]

its still 70 - 80 year old wood

i expect if the barrels are in original condition they could, I am sure someone like Researcher can tell us the standard proof pressures of 1930 Vs now

[Researcher]

Pressure isn't the issue. SAAMI spec for 12-gauge (except for the new 3 1/2 inch) was then/is now 11500 psi. Up to 1935, 1 3/8 ounce was the heaviest payload being pushed out of the 3-inch 12-gauge progressive burning powder shells, and after that the 1 5/8 ounce 12-gauge 3-inch Magnum load was available.

Some of the older 12-gauge 2 3/4 inch and longer shells, with the heaviest loads which our North American ammunition manufacturers offered, 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28 grains of dense smokeless powder pushing 1 1/4 ounce of shot, had pressures above what SAAMI specs are now according to several old DuPont powder booklets I have. Then again, those booklets were promoting their DuPont Oval progressive burning smokeless powder and its higher velocity and lower pressure.

I'd certainly stick with lead and the softer non-toxics, no steel or other harder non-toxics. Though I shot quite a few 1 5/8 ounce 3-inch Magnums in my Super-Fox in my youth, I'd probably stick to 1 3/8 ounce at no more than 1300 fps now days.

[Jäger]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

Pressure isn't the issue. SAAMI spec for 12-gauge (except for the new 3 1/2 inch) was then/is now 11500 psi. Up to 1935, 1 3/8 ounce was the heaviest payload being pushed out of the 3-inch 12-gauge progressive burning powder shells, and after that the 1 5/8 ounce 12-gauge 3-inch Magnum load was available.

Some of the older 12-gauge 2 3/4 inch and longer shells, with the heaviest loads which our North American ammunition manufacturers offered, 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28 grains of dense smokeless powder pushing 1 1/4 ounce of shot, had pressures above what SAAMI specs are now according to several old DuPont powder booklets I have. Then again, those booklets were promoting their DuPont Oval progressive burning smokeless powder and its higher velocity and lower pressure.

I'd certainly stick with lead and the softer non-toxics, no steel or other harder non-toxics. Though I shot quite a few 1 5/8 ounce 3-inch Magnums in my Super-Fox in my youth, I'd probably stick to 1 3/8 ounce at no more than 1300 fps now days.

Thank you!