Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
PH grade barrels
Unread 08-02-2015, 08:09 PM   #1
Member
Al Limone
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 27
Thanks: 0
Thanked 27 Times in 10 Posts

Default PH grade barrels

I've just acquired Ph with 26 inch uncut twist barrels on a number one frame made in 1892. Were 26 inch twist barrels common?
Al Limone is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-02-2015, 08:21 PM   #2
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,550
Thanks: 476
Thanked 17,419 Times in 4,595 Posts

Default

You neglect to mention the guage of the gun.

26" in 12g or even 16g are on the rarer side. Especially in 12g. In 20g, a 26" length would be relatively common.

I assume you have a 12g gun. In that case, the 26" length would be a special order length since common lengths in 12g would be 28 or 30.
Now, just because they were special order, does not mean they are VERY rare. A number of them were likely ordered. The Parker Story lists in the back a table of "short barreled guns" made. The authors define short barreled as being 24" or less. This is because they did not deem the number of 26" guns made to be low enough to include them in the list of 24" or shorter.

To summarize, from a collectibility standpoint, a factory 26" barreled gun would command a premium due to its relative rarity as being a special order, but that is only if it is collectible conditon. From a shooting standpoint, it may not carry a premium since many people do not like 26" barreled gun due to handling characteristics and such.

I personally shoot the heck out of a factory 26" barreled DHE 12g.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 08-02-2015, 08:36 PM   #3
Member
Al Limone
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 27
Thanks: 0
Thanked 27 Times in 10 Posts

Default

Thank you Brian. It is 12g. factory.
Al Limone is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-02-2015, 09:24 PM   #4
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 31,562
Thanks: 35,442
Thanked 33,041 Times in 12,322 Posts

Default

185 such guns were made. Grade-1, hammerless, Twist (or some variation of Twist) barrels with a length of 26 inches.
Dean Romig is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 08-03-2015, 08:21 AM   #5
Member
Gary Laudermilch
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,327
Thanks: 3,037
Thanked 2,100 Times in 673 Posts

Default

I have a 12 ga., P, twist, with factory 26" barrels. Everybody that has shot it would love to get it from me. I've had lots of offers. I love it's handling qualities.

Forgot to mention that it is on a 1 frame and weighs 6-8. A delightful gun to shoot with light loads.

Last edited by Gary Laudermilch; 08-03-2015 at 08:24 AM.. Reason: Addition
Gary Laudermilch is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Gary Laudermilch For Your Post:
Unread 10-14-2015, 06:53 AM   #6
Member
Al Limone
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 27
Thanks: 0
Thanked 27 Times in 10 Posts

Default

I didn't mention there is the number 2 stamped on the forend wood, iron, and lug.
The barrels are in Dale Edmonds hands right now. When they come back I'll post some photos. In the mean time I've joined and sent for a letter. Thanks for all the help
Al Limone is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-14-2015, 08:33 AM   #7
Member
Mills
PGCA Lifetime Member
Since 3rd Grade
 
Mills Morrison's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,303
Thanks: 14,183
Thanked 12,307 Times in 4,412 Posts

Default

A PH 12 with original 26" barrels just sold on this forum and it was tempting.
Mills Morrison is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-14-2015, 12:47 PM   #8
Member
King Cobb
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Bill Holcombe's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,325
Thanks: 724
Thanked 1,521 Times in 405 Posts

Default

P grades are nice looking guns. I actually prefer them to Gs. For some reason the engraving on Gs just doesn't quite do it for me.

A nice P with some good looking twist barrels is a good looking gun.
__________________
"The Parker gun was the first and the greatest ever." Theophilus Nash Buckingham
Bill Holcombe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bill Holcombe For Your Post:
Unread 10-14-2015, 03:12 PM   #9
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,502
Thanks: 5,494
Thanked 7,458 Times in 3,383 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Holcombe View Post
P grades are nice looking guns. I actually prefer them to Gs. For some reason the engraving on Gs just doesn't quite do it for me.

A nice P with some good looking twist barrels is a good looking gun.
To each his own !

But give me a GH or EH over a PH or NH anyday !

Now with that being said I know of a NH two barrel set that has me interested at the moment .
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to CraigThompson For Your Post:
Unread 10-14-2015, 03:22 PM   #10
Member
King Cobb
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Bill Holcombe's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,325
Thanks: 724
Thanked 1,521 Times in 405 Posts

Default

Indeed, I just like the simplicity of the PH and VH over the GH. All of them pale to a DH though. I don't know why, I just like the simple designs better than the GH.
__________________
"The Parker gun was the first and the greatest ever." Theophilus Nash Buckingham
Bill Holcombe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bill Holcombe For Your Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2023, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.