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Unread 09-15-2018, 01:07 PM   #11
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Drew you are a walking library!!!
Thanks for the information.
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You are most welcome Jim, but I quickly learned at the SOM that if you are not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, you better be the most organized

More powder marketing voodoo - "E.C." Bulk Smokeless

Sept. 20, 1913 Sporting Life
High Velocity - Light Recoil - Even Patterns (not sure how that works )

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Well then, at least we know you have all your light bulbs in order. You are a walking library. Thank you.
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E. C. Schultz celluloid type of gunpuwder ?






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Likely more than anyone would like to know about early Bulk and Dense Smokeless Shotgun powders here not quite 1/2 way down
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...UOZEFU/preview
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That is a lot of info. Particularly like page 21 referring to how Parker tested barrel material in their quality control process.
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January 11, 1902 Sporting Life
"Highest velocity, closest and most even patterns, lowest barrel pressure with the lightest recoil..." WOW!



April 5, 1902 Sporting Life
"...most even patterns and no stringing of shot."


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I have an Italian 16 ga. hammer gun I believe was made between the wars that was proofed with Walsrode smokeless powder, and so stamped on the barrel flats and action flats. It then goes on to state on the top of the barrels that they were "proved in the manner of white powder" (my italian friend's best translation). An interesting mix of english and italian language on the gun. I'm not sure if Walsrode was english or german in origin.
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Wolffe & Co. in Walsrode, Prussia had a London agent, George Beutner, in 1892 then established The Walsrode Smokeless & Waterproof Gun Powder Co. in 1894. Walsrode Gray 33 grain = 3 Dram; Green 30 gr. = 3 Dram.
In 1895, agents included Von Lengerke & Detmold, N.Y., Von Lengerke & Antoine, Chicago, M.F. Kennedy & Bros., St. Paul, and Clabrough, Golcher & Co.

In 1895, President Grover Cleveland order 1,800 ‘ducking’ shotshells from William Wagner, Washington D.C. and specified they be loaded with Walsrode
3rd column under Trade Notes
http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL2501014.pdf

Dr. George N. Thomas organized the Walsrode Gun Club in Trenton, N.J. in 1895; later the Trenton Shooting Association
https://books.google.com/books?id=b5...J&pg=PA272&lpg

1902 "New Green Walsrode"



In 1903, Schoverling, Daly & Gales advertised as the “Sole U.S. Agents” and listed Walsrode as “The Original Dense Smokeless”

1915 Forest & Stream

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Laflin & Rand may have started the Smokeless Powder Marketing Hyperbole; Oct. 22, 1898 "greatest velocity and uniformity with lowest bursting strain" No mention of recoil

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