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Unread 12-18-2020, 05:13 PM   #41
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According to the Purdey records the original cost of this gun was 105 pounds. It was supplied in a soft Leg-or-Mutton case, made of Mail Canvas, at an additional cost of 1 pound 5 shillings.
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I won a lot on the recent Ward's auction for a full box of Western Xpert Super Trap Load(s). The flap specifies:

XT26HR71/2CS
Hercules Red Dot
3 Drams Equiv. - 1 1/4 Oz. - No. 7 1/2 chilled shot

Shells are excellent shape, but not high brass like the ones you pictured, John.

Beautiful gun. Shoot it well.

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Stan's box of shells is near the holy grail for early but not too early trap loads. My absolute holy grail is the Western 3" 1 1/4 ounce #7 1/2 Lubaloy load. I called on a box of those several years ago and they were sold. I have wondered whether they were actually ever there. I have never seen a box of Lubaloy 3" trap loads sold at Ward's. Maybe someone here has seen a box offered.
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Stan, the Western Super-Trap loads came in the high brass RECORD hull when they first came out in the late 1920s. With the introduction of non-corrosive priming in the 1931-2 time frame Western began putting up their Super-Trap loads in the FIELD hull. During 1936, Western discontinued the FIELD shell and Xpert became their sole low brass smokeless powder shell.

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Thanks, Dave. Was wondering about their vintage. Didn't realize Red Dot was that much of an old timer.

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Stan, I take it the box of Xpert Super-Trap loads you got was Lot #10240.

Xpert 12-gauge Super-Trap Load XT26HR7 1-2CS.jpg

The first time I see the Super-Trap Loads being specified with Hercules Red Dot (HR), Western MiniMax (WM) or DuPont MX (MX) is the December 24, 1936 Western Price List. Your shells with the Super-Seal Crimp would be 1939 or later and with the Seal-Tite wads up to 1946. By the April 1947, 11th Edition of the Western Ammunition Handbook, the Seal-Tite wad was replaced with the Super-Seal Cup Wad. Actually Load No. XT26CS was dropped by the undated 9th Edition of the Western Ammunition Handbook, as loads for ATA Trap Shooting had been limited to 1 1/8 ounce since April 1940.
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I would have pegged Stan with item number 10217.
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Dave's right. It was lot #10240. The shells inside are in better shape than the box. Perfect.

Thanks for the closer dating information. If I'm following correctly .....1939-1940. Really appreciate it.

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I would have pegged Stan with item number 10217.
$1904 ?

That would have required me hitting a topwater plug, Bill. I'm a bottom feeder.
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