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Unread 03-17-2015, 11:36 AM   #51
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Stub twist is the best looking of the Twist variations, IMHO. Unless you count Bernard as twist. A stub twist Parker is on my wish list for someday.
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Yes your right. My limited readings suggests the nails were a good source of iron.
So does that mean they made a high quality twist barrel or just average. Thing is they seem to be kind of scarce.
My quest is more informational than anything else. One thing for sure, the pattern is bold, which I like.
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Chuck, do the records show 10165 as having Stub Twist barrels?

It does....




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Unread 03-17-2015, 12:17 PM   #54
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Dean, anyway to guess on how many Stub Twist guns were made by Parker without research? I can't recall any listing in the Parker books of such information.
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Carl, I suspect there is no way to estimate the number of Stub Twist guns made by Parker Bros. In the "Grades" section of The Parker Story there are tables at the end of each of the grades giving a breakdown of how many of each gauge/barrel length/barrel steel were made and only the tables for Grade 1 guns list any guns with Stub Twist barrels. 10165 is a Grade 0 gun and is listed as a T0 (Twist barrels, 0-Grade) gun and I believe the only 20 ga. lifter with 26" Twist barrels in the 0-Grade tables is probably 10165.

So, if 10165 is listed as a T0 gun I suspect a lot of other Stub Twist barreled Parkers have also been lumped into the T0 category with no reference to "Stub Twist".

Just my HO.
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I'm not sure if this thread is still going, but I just read it asking about checkering (or lack of). If you're still looking for examples:

My Parker 12 ga. s/n 5670 says 'Plain Steel' on the top rib, and has no checkering on the stock.
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This is an early 20ga lifter. I believe the wood to be original
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a lot of those guns listed as t o are in fact stub twist guns.. 1 of my 8 ga is listed as a t o in the parker bible but on the barrels it is listed stub twist....charlie
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