Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums Parker Hammer Guns

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 12-11-2020, 05:26 PM   #11
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 31,558
Thanks: 35,431
Thanked 33,039 Times in 12,321 Posts

Default

Bill, that's a 1915 or 1916 gun. "All" Parkers produced after 1910 had the modified bolt and bolt plate. Even guns sent back to Parker for repairs and service had it replaced as a N/C upgrade but I would suspect yours had the modified bolt and plate from the start.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-13-2020, 11:08 PM   #12
Member
jeffery c
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 342
Thanks: 183
Thanked 165 Times in 73 Posts

Default

So, is it fair to say 1917 would be the last of the Parkers and 1932 the last of Stevens and LC Smiths?
jefferyconnor is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-13-2020, 11:38 PM   #13
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 31,558
Thanks: 35,431
Thanked 33,039 Times in 12,321 Posts

Default

According to the information/records we have on Parkers I would say yes regarding the latest Parker hammer guns.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-14-2020, 10:38 AM   #14
Member
Hammer Gun
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Gary Carmichael Sr's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,616
Thanks: 2,742
Thanked 7,668 Times in 1,642 Posts

Default

Jeffrey, go to page 2 in hammer guns and you will see photos and the letter on the gun, Gary
Gary Carmichael Sr is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-14-2020, 10:42 AM   #15
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,549
Thanks: 476
Thanked 17,411 Times in 4,591 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jefferyconnor View Post
At your convenience would you be up to post some pictures of your gun? I wonder if the last ones were made of older parts or had some of the changes that the hammerless had? Like the plate on the lump that the locking bolt engages or the toplever spring.

The top lever and spring setup of the hammer gun would remain unchanged.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Brian Dudley For Your Post:
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 12-14-2020, 10:15 PM   #16
Member
jeffery c
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 342
Thanks: 183
Thanked 165 Times in 73 Posts

Default

I found this link a closed listing of a late LC Smith:
https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101066716
I think it's actually 1929 based on the serial number and barrel stampings.
jefferyconnor is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-14-2020, 10:40 PM   #17
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,549
Thanks: 476
Thanked 17,411 Times in 4,591 Posts

Default

LC Smith did build hammer guns pretty late. And So did Ithaca. They offered hammer guns well into the Flues era.

Recently I did some work on a friends Ithaca Flues hammer gun in 10g. that was made in 1914.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is online now   Reply With Quote
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 12-16-2020, 01:45 AM   #18
Member
jeffery c
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 342
Thanks: 183
Thanked 165 Times in 73 Posts

Default

It was kind of a surprise to me hammer guns were made so late, I always pictured them being done by 1900 or so. For one reason or another, I like guns made late in production and have few last year hammerless guns on hand. I think late Parker, LC Smith or Ithaca hammer guns will be harder to find.
jefferyconnor is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-16-2020, 07:57 AM   #19
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 31,558
Thanks: 35,431
Thanked 33,039 Times in 12,321 Posts

Default

Yes Jeffrey, they will be much harder to find. Since the hammerless guns were first produced they were coming more and more into demand. There were the old hold-outs who “would never own one of them things” for various reasons but we all know how sportsmen just have to have the newest and latest, e.g. plastic stocked camo from one end to the other capable of digesting 3 1/2” magnum loads with screw-in choke tubes. So the hammer guns were doomed to extinction from about 1890 and as the years went on fewer and fewer hammer guns were produced. A fluid steel barreled Parker hammer gun is a rarity for certain. You can look in the Grades charts in “The Parker Story” for totals but there weren’t many.

Beginning on page 20 of the current issue of “Parker Pages” we read about Wayne Owens’ remarkeble Grade 4 twenty-gauge hammer gun. Talk about a rarity...





.




.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 01-17-2021, 01:51 PM   #20
Member
Terry Smith
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 56 Times in 13 Posts

Default

I think one candidate for the last Parker hammer gun might be 208332.
It is a 12ga., Grade 3, fluid steel barreled hammer gun, probably made in 1924.
Terry Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Terry Smith For Your Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:40 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2023, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.