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Unread 02-27-2021, 08:42 PM   #1
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Default Rifled Slug/Ball Deer Side by Side

I received a couple old Double Gun Journals recently and Sherman Bell had an article about a rifled 12 gauge side by side with Hastings barrels fitted up. Does anyone happen to have any guns like that they could post about, maybe with pictures? I'm interested in original or custom shotguns set up to fire slugs or balls. I searched here and found out that Parker actually made original guns that way too. Dewey Vicknair made a custom Fox like that also. Besides that, CSMC makes 20 gauge rifle shotguns.
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I received a couple old Double Gun Journals recently and Sherman Bell had an article about a rifled 12 gauge side by side with Hastings barrels fitted up. Does anyone happen to have any guns like that they could post about, maybe with pictures? I'm interested in original or custom shotguns set up to fire slugs or balls. I searched here and found out that Parker actually made original guns that way too. Dewey Vicknair made a custom Fox like that also. Besides that, CSMC makes 20 gauge rifle shotguns.
Jaquas had one a decade or more ago. An English gun marked for buck and ball. The barrels were not rifled but there were twists visible in the barrels, almost like twisted ripples. It was a neat gun, I can’t recall make but it was not a name I recognized.

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there was a 16 ga lc smith double rifled slug gun floating around for sale a few years back on the auction sites...I should have bought it.our own brian was making a slug gun a few years back maybe he will chime in about it...I too have always been interested in these guns...I shoot a parker 8 ga lifter with 2 ounce round balls but it is not accurate beyond 30 yards...it will kill a deer quick if you can hit him or her.....charlie
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One of the auction houses had a Parker 12 gauge hammerless in the last two years that was supposedly rifled . Seems to me it was Rock Island , I was called to do a phone bid but it shot above what I was willing to go so I never made a bid .
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FWIW , I cast my own slugs for the 10 , 12 , 16 , 20 and 28 all in the design of the Lyman 525 sabot slug ( if you don’t know what they’re like they look like a air rifle pellet on steroids ) . I also cast a couple other slugs for the 8 and 10 gauges as well as roundballs for the 8 , 10 and 12 . But to meet my parameters they only need to do well out to 25 or 30 yards . I do however have a GH 16 with slightly snipped barrels that shoots my slugs well out to 50 yards . My only rifled shotguns any longer are a Savage 220 bolt slug gun and a Jastings barrel for an A-5 Magnum .
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FWIW , I cast my own slugs for the 10 , 12 , 16 , 20 and 28 all in the design of the Lyman 525 sabot slug ( if you don’t know what they’re like they look like a air rifle pellet on steroids ) . I also cast a couple other slugs for the 8 and 10 gauges as well as roundballs for the 8 , 10 and 12 . But to meet my parameters they only need to do well out to 25 or 30 yards . I do however have a GH 16 with slightly snipped barrels that shoots my slugs well out to 50 yards . My only rifled shotguns any longer are a Savage 220 bolt slug gun and a Jastings barrel for an A-5 Magnum .
I wonder how much more accurate the rifling actually makes foster slugs or balls anyway? Sherman Bell's gun was a Greener I think with sleeved Hastings barrels. It's got to be expensive to have that done!
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I wonder how much more accurate the rifling actually makes foster slugs or balls anyway? Sherman Bell's gun was a Greener I think with sleeved Hastings barrels. It's got to be expensive to have that done!
Rifling is a waste of time for Foster slugs in my opinion . For punkin balls it may or may not help I’ve never tried , although I’ve seen some Ross Seyfried articles where he paper patched roundballs and shot them in double rifles . Obviously at ignition a roundball will obturate some initially and give the rifling more surface to grip . My two rifled barrels have only tasted factory sabot slugs so all the rifling touched was plastic .
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The H&H paradox SXS were/are very accurate at 100 yds +
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The H&H paradox SXS were/are very accurate at 100 yds +
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Those were only rifled at the end of the barrels, right?
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