Ithaca 4E in .410

[Researcher]

Sweet little NID!! Wonder how many of the fourteen No. 4E NID .410-bores have 28-inch barrels. I very briefly, thirty some years ago, had an early Field Grade NID .410-bore with 28-inch barrels.

[Robert Brooks]

I went to the Atlanta gunshow around 1970 and this dealer had a 4E 410 that the forend wood had split down the middle,he was asking $450 for it. Bobby

[nid-28]

Dave-I’d venture to say that very few had 28 inch barrels. My belief is that during the NID era, small bores—28’s and 410’s—we’re mostly made with 26 inch barrels. The bulk of the production were field grades and they, with a few exceptions, were all 26 inches. I noted in my years of searching out these guns, that the higher grade, optioned guns, especially those with vent ribs, were the guns where you’d encounter the longer barrels (28”). The 410 4-E in this discussion originally went to New York City. It’s fun to speculate what the buyer was thinking when they placed their order!

[MrBojangles]

Originally Posted by Bill Davis

Dave-I’d venture to say that very few had 28 inch barrels. My belief is that during the NID era, small bores—28’s and 410’s—we’re mostly made with 26 inch barrels. The bulk of the production were field grades and they, with a few exceptions, were all 26 inches. I noted in my years of searching out these guns, that the higher grade, optioned guns, especially those with vent ribs, were the guns where you’d encounter the longer barrels (28”). The 410 4-E in this discussion originally went to New York City. It’s fun to speculate what the buyer was thinking when they placed their order!

NID-28. I may have some insight into this. Please check your PM.

[todd allen]

I sold a Turnbull/Flaim NID about 5 years ago.
Despite being a total redo on a field grade. Case colors and AAA wood, no added engraving, 26" bbls.
Went for 5k, and nobody even blinked.

[Bill Murphy]

I won't mention what I had to pay at auction for my 30" barrel, fully optioned .410 Iver Johnson Skeeter. It's the only gun I have ever bought from that auction that staff members still ask about when I attend.

[Researcher]

Walt S. gave me the record information and it’s a 1930 gun.

At that time the "standard" chamber length for the .410-bore was 2 1/2 inch. The catalog text doesn't mention chamber length. Wonder if the chambers have been lengthened?

In this great condition I doubt this was Norman Pillot's No. 4E .410-bore.

Rechambering to 3-inch .410-bore, July 1933 National Sportsman.jpeg

July 1933 National Sportsman