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Unread 01-22-2013, 08:06 PM   #1
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Default 12 gauge Damascus with hammers

My late father showed this to me over 40 years ago, from his closet. I think it was his grandfather's shotgun. My dad never fired it during my 50 year lifetime (he may even not ever fired it himself…I don’t know)....I recently found it again in my mother's closet. I don't know much more about it, but it looks to be in remarkable shape for its age. I don't know if it is worth $10 or $10,000. It appears to be 12 gauge. My grandfather's surname is carved into the bottom of the stock. Little "curly Q's" are all over the barrels in the bluing...I tried to capture that in a close up photo. The triggers and hammers work well, and the action is tight/solid. The barrels are 30 inches long, and look "wire wound" inside, but not overly corroded or pitted. On the bottom it says Pat'd Mar 23 1875 and Nov 13 1866. On the lower action it is stamped 15828 and the matching 15828 is on the upper action. Other than wiping the many decades of dust off of it, I have not tried to take it apart or do any "ignorant restoration." What year might this have been made, and does it have a name/model?
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Unread 01-22-2013, 08:47 PM   #2
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If the book is correct it should be a 30" damascus barrel grade 2 lifter in 12 gauge. Which, from the pictures it is certainly a grade 2 lifter with damascus barrels. It should have a pistol grip and was built about 1879. I can also see that a hammer has been replaced which detracts from its value.

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Unread 01-22-2013, 09:38 PM   #3
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Unfortunately the head of the stock is shot on the left side... oil soaked and apparently rotted around the lock plate and top tang.
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Put up for sale on gunauction.com today.
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Unread 01-23-2013, 08:29 PM   #5
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Looks like a Remington hammer?
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Yup, a grade 2 lifter.
The left hammer is not correct for the gun. The locks are starting to work back off the action due to wood damage and deterioration behind them. If the lockup is good and the bores are good, then that is a great start. If wall thickness checks out, there is no reason it could not be shot with the proper loads. But it should not be shot much until the stock issues are taken care of on it.
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I would like to value this gun before buying it serial #11930
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Default I would like to value this gun before buying it serial #11930

The guy said it was a 1877 it has a marshals badge on it initials IT on moth the gun and badge. Also has raw hide on the stock. Any info would be great.
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