WC Scott hammer guns ?

[Breck Gorman]

Here’s a 12g W&C Scott hammer.

[Setter Man]

I once owned a WC Scott 12b hammer gun, two barrel set (30" & 40"). I can tell you it was well made and the engraving (95% coverage) was deep and perfectly executed. 10-15 years ago I saw another WC Scott hammergun that Brad Bachelder was in the process of restoring. the locks had the face of a Springer spaniel that was unbelievably detailed, the finest engraving of a dog that I have ever seen, by a mile.

Some day I would love to own a 16b Pape hammergun but if the gun-gods don't give me that opportunity I would buy another WC Scott. You will get A LOT of gun for the money.

JDG

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Breck Gorman

Here’s a 12g W&C Scott hammer.

Nice looking hammer gun for sure !
The 10 ga im looking at looks almost identical to that but the engraving is a little different but everything else looks the same .
One thing I do like about this W.&C. Scott im looking at it none of the screws have been buggered up on it . Which seems like a hard thing to find on a pre 1899 sxs or any gun of that age really.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jay Gardner

I once owned a WC Scott 12b hammer gun, two barrel set (30" & 40"). I can tell you it was well made and the engraving (95% coverage) was deep and perfectly executed. 10-15 years ago I saw another WC Scott hammergun that Brad Bachelder was in the process of restoring. the locks had the face of a Springer spaniel that was unbelievably detailed, the finest engraving of a dog that I have ever seen, by a mile.

Some day I would love to own a 16b Pape hammergun but if the gun-gods don't give me that opportunity I would buy another WC Scott. You will get A LOT of gun for the money.

JDG

Theres a Lefever 10 gauge Mr.Brad restored on gunsinternational right now for 3500$ the character in the damascus is amazing . I hear his son does amazing barrel work as well and is carrying on the torch .

Ive never heard the name Pape until about a week ago when I seen a video on a Paper hammerless gun that had a pushup release for the barrels . I guess in the U.K they dont really restore old guns like Mr.Brad did or like Turnbull .

I would like to own a 16 gauge sxs with 32" barrels but the only thing I could find is the Dickinson custom shop guns they make a 16 gauge with 30". The 30" barrels on that Baker sxs 20 gauge I held yesterday felt pretty long . I think because on a smaller frame guns barrels feel longer or look longer .

You had a double 12 ga with 40" barrels ? That sounds like a rare combination . My 8 gauge has 39" barrels , it should be here sometime next week .

[Setter Man]

Milton; the 40” barrels were a work of art. Think about how long this ribbons had to be to make 40” tubes - and they were made with one long ribbon. I was told 40” barrels were common for hunting off horseback do as to get the muzzle blast away from the horse.

Pape is often referred to as “the Purdy of the north” and all of their hammerguns that I have seen have been spectacular. Jaquas had a Pape 16 hammer in their rack for quite a while and I regret not finding a way to buy it.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jay Gardner

Milton; the 40” barrels were a work of art. Think about how long this ribbons had to be to make 40” tubes - and they were made with one long ribbon. I was told 40” barrels were common for hunting off horseback do as to get the muzzle blast away from the horse.

Pape is often referred to as “the Purdy of the north” and all of their hammerguns that I have seen have been spectacular. Jaquas had a Pape 16 hammer in their rack for quite a while and I regret not finding a way to buy it.

I know the feeling but I have noticed with the bigger gauges in vintage doubles they can sit around on a shelf for sale years at a time . So when im looking at some different ones right now I know a majority of them will still be there when I save up the money . Heres a beautiful Pape 12 ga hammer https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101084998


I know how high esteem Purdeys are held to but me my favorite of the english sxs are Westley Richards . They are the only ones who still build 10s 8s and even 4 gauges and in any combination you could desire . I have got to shoot a Purdey once the man who owned it said he bought it back around 1985 for 65k . That Purdey sidelock stopped working in the field and he had to borrow a o/u . My neighbor who worked on the plantation fixed the Purdey using a leatherman pocket tool . I was sweating the whole time watching him tinker on a Purdey with a leatherman ! . But the owner didnt care I guess he figured he could order another one lol . I told my neighbor " You just dont take apart a Purdey and work on it with what is basically a pocket knife on the tailgate of a truck .

Ive never had barrels that long on a shotgun before , I had a Zephyr 10 ga that had a 36" barrel , the muzzle diameter mic'd out at .993" .
I cant wait to see in person what these 39" 8 gauge look and feel like .
I have read that these super long barrels were designed during the black powder era for a more complete burn of the powder and less fouling ?

[charlie cleveland]

if i ever had a set of 40 inch barrels on a 12 ga it would have been with me till death to us part.....charlie

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

if i ever had a set of 40 inch barrels on a 12 ga it would have been with me till death to us part.....charlie

You could probably have some 40" barrels sleeved onto a 12 gauge .
The rib would probably cost more than the barrels . There is or was a barrel maker who made 12 ga barrels up to either 40 or 45" . Barrels are actually cheap compared to the cost of having them fitted to a sxs .

I think a long barreled 16 and or 28 ga double would be really neat .

Ive been trying to find a gun slip or canvas/leather case for my 39" barrels and no luck yet . I did find a 40" leather case for a bolt action im thinking that could be re-purposed for my 8 gauge .

Ive found some reproduction trade labels for W.&C. Scott so if i do end up with one I will have a nice case for it .

[Setter Man]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

if i ever had a set of 40 inch barrels on a 12 ga it would have been with me till death to us part.....charlie

LoL. Tell you this much: I have some idea what it’s like for a porn star to show up at the set. Every time I showed up at the first station and all
The other shooters couldn’t keep their eyes off my barrels.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jay Gardner

LoL. Tell you this much: I have some idea what it’s like for a porn star to show up at the set. Every time I showed up at the first station and all
The other shooters couldn’t keep their eyes off my barrels.

I wish someone would take such a gun quail hunting
Would be a challenge swinging barrels like that in the bush .

was it real front heavy ?