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Unread 12-07-2013, 06:09 PM   #1
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I'm so happy I found parkerguns.org
In reading posts I've seen that there are many people here happy to help.
You don't see that kind of kindness much any more. My uncle just passed. Since I am the gun enthusiast in the family, I was given the gun and asked to find out information on this gun and it's value which will then be given to his daughter. I know pictures will hlep and I will add them as soon as I get a chance. But to start, it is a Parker Bros 20 ga. serial number 227795.
It is a side by side with Trojan Steel 28" barrels, extractors not ejectors and many markings:
PAT'D Oct 25 1910. It has a hexagon with the letters OV in side it and there is a large 0. It also has what looks like a H1 or HT with the letter A under them.
Under the butt plate is a 0344 on the stock.
I would be greatfull to any one who would be be kind enough to tell me more about this gun.
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Unread 12-07-2013, 06:20 PM   #2
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The Trojan is the lowest price Parker, and is fairly common. The 20 gauge is less common than a 12, and is worth more. Photos would be a great help in determining what you have, i.e. condition. Trojans generally had few options so the condition of the gun will be its main factor. Regardless, it's a Parker and that says a lot.
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Unread 12-07-2013, 06:34 PM   #3
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Hello Julie and welcome to the discussion forum. We have no surviving factory records for your Trojan. The Trojan grade was Parker's economy gun. It's still a Parker gun and made by craftsman with great care.

My best advice is to visit the PGCA home page and the links on the left will take you to different sections of the web site for you to gain more information on what a Trojan grade consisted of.

To get an opinion on your gun, post clear in focus pictures of the stock, all areas of the receiver, forend, and barrel marks including the rib inscription and the end of the rib at the muzzle. The condition of the inside and outside of the barrels is important. Is there any rust on the gun?

When you reply to this thread, at the bottom of the page is where you can attach pictures listed as "Manage Attachments." If the pictures are stored on your computer, search and attach them, just follow the directions.

Looking forward to your pictures.
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Unread 12-07-2013, 09:28 PM   #4
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Thank you, Greg and Chuck, for such quick responses. Here are some pictures.
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And please let me now if I am missing any thing.
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That's a well used and very well cared for Trojan. That gun will do anything a A1S will do but just not with the same sparkle and glitter.
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I would suggest searching web sites like gun brokers and other sites for like condition guns to get an idea what its worth may be , most of us parker people don't like offering gun value with out seeing the gun in hand. yours is the lowest grade butt still nice looking and most of us would be proud to have it hanging on our wall
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Hello Julie and welcome to the discussion forum. We have no surviving factory records for your Trojan. The Trojan grade was Parker's economy gun. It's still a Parker gun and made by craftsman with great care.

My best advice is to visit the PGCA home page and the links on the left will take you to different sections of the web site for you to gain more information on what a Trojan grade consisted of.

To get an opinion on your gun, post clear in focus pictures of the stock, all areas of the receiver, forend, and barrel marks including the rib inscription and the end of the rib at the muzzle. The condition of the inside and outside of the barrels is important. Is there any rust on the gun?

When you reply to this thread, at the bottom of the page is where you can attach pictures listed as "Manage Attachments." If the pictures are stored on your computer, search and attach them, just follow the directions.

Looking forward to your pictures.
The links on the left of the home page are wonderful. I've learned so much already.
And I would never have gotten the pictures uploaded without your help.
Even with the instructions it took a minute for me to find the "Manage Attachments." on the page. But I'm blond. Thank you.
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Very nice gun. And nice case too

I have 2 Trojan 20's and they are great guns
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Julie - the advice above on checking selling prices on the auction sites like gunbroker or gunsinternational is the best way to determine what they actually sell for, but try your best to find equal condition. this takes time. Many are advertised with glowing praise that are not original or or have had "work" done on them. And many go unsold because they start too high. You also cannot search completed auctions on gunbroker, so you need to find a couple that are similar, bookmark them and check after they close.

for example - here is one from a well known dealer, see if it sells at that price
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=380198044

i see another at about double that that is not original.

this one has had a pad added
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Par...n_id=100368141

this one has been "touched up" incorrectly - but the sale is pending at what I would think is a deal price wise
http://www.gunsinternational.com/PAR...n_id=100395176

Unfortunately, very few of us qualify as appraisers, although very few of us are lacking in opinions either. For appraisals, the average gun shop is even worse.

I am one who thinks keeping family history in the family is a great thing. I would add that the case (although non-Parker in origin) is a great extra. in it current condition the value is nill it may well be restorable to keep with the gun. we have a member - Kevin McCormack - who does this sort of work.
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