Grade 1 guns I, K, L, M, N, O. P, Q

jeffery c · 02-09-2021, 11:22 PM

What are the differences between the letter grades in grade 1 hammer guns? I have one enroute that has laminated barrels, does that fact decide which letter grade it is within the numerical grade 1 group? On the homepage on the Parker Grades section it says, "As Parker introduced the named grades they named Grade 1 guns I, K, L, M, N, O. P, Q, NH and PH." The pictures linked to at the tab on the bottom of the page states that grade 1 is the same as P grade in toplever guns. My gun is a grade 1 but my question is how do the letter grades I-Q fit in or does this gun fit into the letter scheme at all, being an 1888 gun?

Dean Romig · 02-10-2021, 07:35 AM

Those letters reference the grip style, the bore, and one or two other things. They were all listed in the Parker sales booklets that someone - I think it was Dr. Drew or Researcher Dave - posted here a couple of weeks ago.

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B. Dudley · 02-10-2021, 07:36 AM

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Andy · 02-10-2021, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

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I have seen XXX posted several times in this forum. What exactly is that supposed to mean? I'm not assuming you're having dirty breech thoughts..

Dean Romig · 02-10-2021, 08:23 AM

It means the author deleted his post.

In this case Brian had originally posted about the same thing I did as he was typing so after he posted it he went back and deleted it.

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Andy · 02-10-2021, 10:41 AM

Got it Dean. You must have like a red Bat Phone to the forum as you post within the speed of light fast : )

Researcher · 02-10-2021, 10:56 AM

Here is a price list that shows the differences --

Price List, July 1, 1882, pg 20.jpeg

The Laminated Steel barrel guns are Qualities I, K, L & M. The differences being gauge and grip style.

While these price list texts state "Fine English Twist" and "Twist" all I've ever seen on the guns is "Twist" & "Stub Twist" and of course Dean's examples of misspelling.

jeffery c · 02-10-2021, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

Here is a price list that shows the differences --

Attachment 93072

The Laminated Steel barrel guns are Qualities I, K, L & M. The differences being gauge and grip style.

While these price list texts state "Fine English Twist" and "Twist" all I've ever seen on the guns is "Twist" & "Stub Twist" and of course Dean's examples of misspelling.

Thanks, Researcher! I see now that letter qualities were a subset of the numerical grade.

jeffery c · 02-10-2021, 04:17 PM

Does anyone have pictures of mint condition grade 1 laminated steel barrels? I've done a search and discovered that some higher grade guns had laminated steel of a different style. There looks like a few different styles even within grade 1, I believe one is "pointelle", there's another style that's more of a swirling pattern. I'd be interested in seeing some examples of those.

Dean Romig · 02-10-2021, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

While these price list texts state "Fine English Twist" and "Twist" all I've ever seen on the guns is "Twist" & "Stub Twist" and of course Dean's examples of misspelling.

I think this i what Dave is referring to...
I have no idea who owns this Parker but when I saw it on the forum here a decade or more ago I just HAD to save it.

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