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Been Googling but so much clutter on Google Ithaca Grades get lost. Nothing detailed like the Parker descriptions. It might be a 1 1/2 grade based on Google Images but the photos are not real good. If it is 1 1/2 the butt stocks look fairly plain from photos.
All complicated by not having the gun in front of me. Impression of the engraving from memory is sort of like a Ideal Grade Smith. William |
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05-07-2015, 04:41 PM | #4 | ||||||
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Based on your description of the engraving similar to the Ideal, does it look like this?
This is from page 82 in Walt Synder's book "The Ithaca Gun Company From the Beginning . |
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05-07-2015, 05:09 PM | #5 | ||||||
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That's the gun, and armed with Grade 1 information Google is coming up with more information.
Thanks a lot William |
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05-07-2015, 05:47 PM | #6 | ||||||
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William, thanks for your kind words on the articles. The Super 10's are excellent guns. That s/n dates to about 1927. The Grade stamp will be found on the front end of the water table, and on the back end of the barrel flats. F (Field), 1, 2, 3 etc. If you don't have a 10-guage chamber gauge the easiest way to check the chambers is to dismount the barrels, and using a factory 3-1/2" shelll with roll crimp, try to insert the shell. It should not fully chamber. If it does - the chambers have been lengthened. Super 10's weren't designed for 3-1/2" shells. Caveat emptor.
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05-07-2015, 06:34 PM | #7 | ||||||
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They were good articles and most appreciated.
I have access to a Mansion wall thickness gauge and a Skeet's Bore gauge. The Skeet's won't handle 10's for bore diamater but the Mansion will measure wall thickness. Can measure the barrel wall thickness, choke length, and chamber length with it. Only 10 hulls I have are fired 2 7/8 RST's and new primed unfired 3 1/2 inch Remington's. Saw the photos of 3 1/2 inch shells in the 2 7/8 inch chamber. I would expect the unfired uncrimped empty 3 1/2's would do the same thing, stick out past the extractors while the fired 2 7/8 would drop all the way in. William |
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05-07-2015, 11:05 PM | #8 | ||||||
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A grade 1 1/2 super 10 I wouldn't spend to much time thinking about it, make sure everything checks out and buy it before you regret loosing it.
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05-08-2015, 09:18 AM | #9 | ||||||
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I agree with Eldon's reply.
A new 3-1/2" Remington olive-green colored hull will protrude about 9/16" from an unaltered Super 10 chamber. |
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05-08-2015, 09:35 AM | #10 | ||||||
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I just put a new Remington hull in my Parker Hammer 10, indicated depth to extractor with a black marker . Inserted in the Ithaca ought to tell if the chamber has been lengthen
Looking through books last night. Elmer Keith has a lot of good things to say about Super 10's. Some references on line to Col Askins and the Super 10 but my Askins books can't find much, however they are not indexed might take some sifting. Paul Curtis was mentioned too, will look through his books tonight William Davis |
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